public inbox for linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
To: "Antonino A. Daplas" <adaplas@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Linux Fbdev development list 
	<linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Linux Kernel Development <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] VT binding: Add sysfs support
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:37:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060610043752.GA20088@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <448A147A.3030108@gmail.com>

On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 08:38:18AM +0800, Antonino A. Daplas wrote:
> Greg KH wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 04:39:51PM +0800, Antonino A. Daplas wrote:
> >> Add sysfs attributes for binding and unbinding VT console drivers. The
> >> attributes are located in /sys/class/tty/console and are namely:
> >>
> >>     A. backend - list registered drivers in the following format:
> >>
> >>     "I C: Description"
> > 
> > No, this violates the "one value per file" issue with sysfs.  How do you
> > know you will not overflow the buffer passed to you?
> 
> I was wondering about this. I just want a way to show what are the currently
> loaded drivers, so it's a read-only attribute.  It's using snprintf (though
> I haven't added a check for possible overflows, should be a 2-liner). Maximum
> number of lines is 16, and there are examples of this rule-breakage in the
> current sysfs tree.
> 
> /sys/class/usb_host/usb_hostx/device/pools

Ah, thanks for pointing this out.  Those files should go to debugfs,
they do NOT belong in sysfs at all.

> Yes, none are valid excuses.  Anyway, what would be the best way? I was
> considering creating another class for vt_console, but that would entail
> the creation of a new device major number just for this.

No, you don't need a major to create a new class in sysfs at all.  Look
at usb_host for an example of that :)

And even if you did, we have loads of free major numbers now, it's not a
big deal to get a new one.

I vote for this, it would make things much easier.

> >>     Where: I  = ID number of the driver
> >>            C  = status of the driver which can be:
> >>
> >> 		S = system driver
> >> 		B = bound modular driver
> >> 		U = unbound modular driver
> >>
> >> 	   Description - text description of the driver
> >>
> >>     B. bind - binds a driver to the console layer
> >>
> >>        echo <ID> > /sys/class/tty/console/bind
> >>
> >>     C. unbind - unbinds a driver from the console layer
> >>
> >>        echo <ID> > /sys/class/tty/console/unbind
> >>
> >> The tty layer does nothing to these attributes except create them and punt all
> >> requests to the VT layer.
> > 
> > Why is this needed?  What is wrong with the current scheme of binding
> > ttys to the console?
> > 
> 
> The binding part, maybe none, but that's still debatable.  It's the unbinding
> feature that people are requesting.  Note the longish threads on "the future
> of graphics subsystem".  It would also ease the life of console driver
> developers, and it would stop people from pestering me on why they cannot unload
> their beloved framebuffer console and drivers and go back to VGA console.

Ok, I also read the 0/5 in this series which describes this in detail,
sorry for not seeing that (hint, cc: everyone on the series that one
too, so they get a bit of detail in the future.)

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-10  4:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-09  8:39 [PATCH 2/5] VT binding: Add sysfs support Antonino A. Daplas
2006-06-09 22:08 ` Greg KH
2006-06-10  0:38   ` Antonino A. Daplas
2006-06-10  4:37     ` Greg KH [this message]
2006-06-10  5:56       ` Antonino A. Daplas

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20060610043752.GA20088@suse.de \
    --to=gregkh@suse.de \
    --cc=adaplas@gmail.com \
    --cc=akpm@osdl.org \
    --cc=linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox