Re: VGER does gradual SPF activation (FAQ matter)

Justin Piszcz
2006-06-13T13:15:52Z

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Matthias Andree wrote:

> Bernd Petrovitsch schrieb am 2006-06-13:
>
>> On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 23:05 -0400, Horst von Brand wrote:
>>> Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@firmix.at> wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> Use secure authenticated mail submission on a known good MTA of said
>>>> domain (and even the smallest ISP should be able to set that up).
>>>
>>> So what? What should me make me trust some domain that I've never before
>>
>> Well, so everyone can send email through an MTA (the email accounts
>> "home MTA") covered in the SPF records.
>
> As (1) SPF this is demonstrably useless to establish trust and (2) the
> argument that SPF doesn't provide the required blacklist information
> hasn't been countered yet, it follows that
> SPF just makes life harder for everyone without real benefits in return.
>
> SPF also prefers end-to-end mailings and falls short when relays are
> used - but these are advocated by the SPF disciples.
>
> Can this SPF madness please be buried now?
>
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SPF can be useful though, as a lot of Asian spam, for example says they
are hotmail.com and they are not, SPF can reject much faster than sender
address verification.