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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Michal Piotrowski <michal.k.k.piotrowski@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: broken local_t on i386
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:06:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200606121906.28692.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0606120950280.19309@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

On Monday 12 June 2006 18:54, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Jun 2006, Andi Kleen wrote:
> 
> > > #define __get_cpu_var(var) (*RELOC_HIDE(&per_cpu__##var, __my_cpu_offset()))
> > 
> > It is also affected by your race. The inc would only be atomic if the counter
> > was in the PDA, but standard per cpu data isn't. So it has to follow 
> > a pointer and then it could already have switched.
> 
> I thought the above would refer to a PDA memory area that is specially 
> mapped by each processor? That is the only thing that would get this 
> working right because we would map to a different PDA if the process 
> would be mapped to a different processor.

It does, but the per cpu data that everybody uses doesn't reside in the PDA
because it wasn't possible to make this work with binutils

It would require a relocation relative to another symbol which isn't
really supported.

At some point I considered using runtime patching to work around
this limitation, but it would be some work and relatively complex.

So the PDA just contains a pointer to the real per CPU area and it's
added. Unfortunately it's three instructions or so and not atomic 
(mov, add, reference) 

> 
> > Fix would be to disable preemption. I don't think it needs cli/sti
> > on non preemptible kernels.
> 
> Yuck. The advantage of local.t was that it does not need any of these 
> tricks. What is the point of local.t if one needs to disable preemption?

No atomic operations. Preemption just requires to increase a counter
in thread info.

Also on non preemptive kernels - which are the majority - it's a single
instruction on x86. I guess preempt users can live with a bit more
overhead ... 

-Andi


  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-12 17:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-10  4:40 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-10 10:23 ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Michal Piotrowski
2006-06-10 16:24   ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-10 16:43     ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Christoph Lameter
2006-06-10 16:51       ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Christoph Lameter
2006-06-10 17:03         ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-10 18:04           ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Christoph Lameter
2006-06-10 18:14             ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Michal Piotrowski
2006-06-10 18:31               ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Christoph Lameter
2006-06-10 18:35                 ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Michal Piotrowski
2006-06-12 11:05                 ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2006-06-12 11:48                   ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2006-06-12 12:14                     ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Andi Kleen
2006-06-12 13:07                       ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2006-06-12 13:41                         ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Andi Kleen
2006-06-13  3:28                       ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Keith Owens
2006-06-13  4:56                         ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Andi Kleen
2006-06-13  5:08                           ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Keith Owens
2006-06-13  5:18                             ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Andi Kleen
2006-06-13  5:43                               ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Nick Piggin
2006-06-13  5:48                                 ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Andi Kleen
2006-06-13 11:45                             ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-13 12:41                               ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Keith Owens
2006-06-12 16:37                     ` broken local_t on i386 Christoph Lameter
2006-06-12 16:48                       ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-12 16:54                         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-06-12 17:06                           ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2006-06-12 17:11                             ` Christoph Lameter
2006-06-12 17:29                               ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-12 18:14                             ` Lee Revell
2006-06-12 18:46                               ` Alan Cox
2006-06-12 18:27                             ` Christoph Lameter
2006-06-12 17:35                               ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-12 18:42                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-06-12 17:55                                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-12 18:59                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-06-12 18:11                                       ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-12 19:15                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-06-13  3:36                                           ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-12 20:12                                         ` Alan Cox
2006-06-13  4:02                                           ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-12 13:50                   ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Michal Piotrowski
2006-06-12 14:20                     ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2006-06-12 14:57                       ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Michal Piotrowski
     [not found]               ` <6bffcb0e0606101126v55cc20dbk275d8aa7fdcb0f1a@mail.gmail.com>
2006-06-10 18:36                 ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Christoph Lameter
2006-06-10 19:08                   ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Michal Piotrowski
2006-06-10 16:58       ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-10 14:56 ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Martin J. Bligh
2006-06-10 16:43   ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-10 16:18 ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Dominik Karall
2006-06-10 16:25   ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Michal Piotrowski
2006-06-10 17:42     ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Dominik Karall
2006-06-10 18:43       ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-06-11 10:17         ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Jan Engelhardt
2006-06-11 10:58           ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-06-12 16:56 ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Zan Lynx
2006-06-12 17:35 ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Cedric Le Goater
2006-06-12 22:16   ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Christoph Lameter
2006-06-13  0:24     ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Christoph Lameter
2006-06-14 21:56       ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Trond Myklebust
2006-06-13  7:22     ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Cedric Le Goater
2006-06-13 17:54       ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Christoph Lameter
2006-06-13 19:35         ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Christoph Lameter
2006-06-13 20:22           ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Cedric Le Goater
2006-06-13 21:13             ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Christoph Lameter
2006-06-13 21:50               ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Cedric Le Goater
2006-06-12 18:19 ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Badari Pulavarty
2006-06-13 13:54   ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-13 17:04     ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Badari Pulavarty
2006-06-12 22:09 ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Steve Fox
2006-06-13 13:54   ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-13 14:10     ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Sergei Shtylyov
2006-06-13 19:01       ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Steve Fox
2006-06-13 21:43       ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-13 21:51       ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Badari Pulavarty
2006-06-13 22:36         ` 2.6.16-rc6-mm2 Steve Fox

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