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From: Wakko Warner <wakko@animx.eu.org>
To: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>
Cc: jdow <jdow@earthlink.net>, Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>,
	nick@linicks.net, Horst von Brand <vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl>,
	Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@firmix.at>,
	marty fouts <mf.danger@gmail.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Matti Aarnio <matti.aarnio@zmailer.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: VGER does gradual SPF activation (FAQ matter)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:14:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060615231401.GA21203@animx.eu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <30592.1150391118@ocs3.ocs.com.au>

Keith Owens wrote:
> "jdow" (on Mon, 12 Jun 2006 16:03:46 -0700) wrote:
> >Greylist those who have not subscribed. Let their email server try
> >again in 30 minutes. For those who are not subscribed it should not
> >matter if their message is delayed 30 minutes. And so far spammers
> >never try again.
> 
> Not true.  I greylist and my recent logs show a pattern of spam code
> that tries 5 times at exactly 5 minute intervals, before finally giving
> up.  Other spam code tries two or three times at one hour intervals.
> All designed by spammers to bypass greylist systems.

I have yet to setup any greylisting for any of my systems yet, but I would
greylist, and if they came back an hour later and was in blacklists, I
wouldn't allow it.  This is one thing greylisting can do for you, defer it
until they are in blacklists.

Of course all rules need to be weighed for the server they are placed on.  I
would do the above on my domain since I'm the only user, I might not on big
ISP.

I have noticed spam from zombies that were not in RBLs when it came in and 5
minutes later, they are in RBLs.

-- 
 Lab tests show that use of micro$oft causes cancer in lab animals
 Got Gas???

  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-15 23:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-10 22:27 VGER does gradual SPF activation (FAQ matter) Matti Aarnio
2006-06-10 23:06 ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-11  0:16   ` Rik van Riel
2006-06-11  0:44     ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-11 13:02     ` Theodore Tso
2006-06-11 13:55       ` Rik van Riel
2006-06-11 14:03         ` Avi Kivity
2006-06-12  8:47           ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-12 10:17             ` Neil Brown
2006-06-12 10:35               ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-12 11:07               ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-11  2:24   ` marty fouts
2006-06-11  2:41     ` jdow
2006-06-11  2:58       ` David Schwartz
2006-06-11  5:17         ` jdow
2006-06-12  8:18           ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-06-12  8:23             ` jdow
2006-06-12  8:31               ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-06-12  9:47               ` Neil Brown
2006-06-12 10:30                 ` Alan Cox
2006-06-12 10:33                   ` Neil Brown
2006-06-12 17:37               ` Gerhard Mack
2006-06-12 18:14                 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-06-12 18:46                   ` jdow
2006-06-12 19:16                     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-06-12 21:51                   ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-06-13 21:12                 ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-12  9:53             ` Alan Cox
2006-06-12 10:01               ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-06-12 11:14                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-12 10:58               ` Neil Brown
2006-06-12 11:22                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-12 11:42             ` Kyle Moffett
2006-06-13 23:32               ` Scott Lockwood
2006-06-13 23:42                 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-06-14  0:02               ` Neil Brown
2006-06-14 10:20                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-16  3:53                   ` Kyle Moffett
2006-06-12  8:27     ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-06-12 20:25       ` Horst von Brand
2006-06-12 21:10         ` Nick Warne
2006-06-12 22:06           ` Jesper Juhl
2006-06-12 22:12             ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-06-12 23:03             ` jdow
2006-06-13  3:00               ` Horst von Brand
2006-06-13  5:54                 ` jdow
2006-06-13  8:36                   ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-06-13  9:58                   ` Marc Perkel
2006-06-13 13:28                   ` Horst von Brand
2006-06-13 14:34                     ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-13  9:05                 ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-13 10:45                   ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-13 12:24                     ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-13 12:49                       ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-13 13:10                         ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-13 15:19                         ` Marc Perkel
2006-06-13 15:57                           ` Auke Kok
2006-06-13 19:54                             ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-13 20:31                               ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-06-13 20:48                                 ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-15 17:05               ` Keith Owens
2006-06-15 23:14                 ` Wakko Warner [this message]
2006-06-13  0:11             ` Phil Oester
2006-06-13  0:26               ` David Miller
2006-06-13  4:18                 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-06-13 15:17               ` Joel Jaeggli
2006-06-12 21:43         ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-06-13  3:05           ` Horst von Brand
2006-06-13  8:31             ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-06-13 10:50               ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-13 13:15                 ` Justin Piszcz
2006-06-11  5:09   ` Neil Brown
2006-06-11  5:26     ` jdow
2006-06-11  6:12       ` Willy Tarreau
2006-06-11 16:02 ` Folkert van Heusden
2006-06-11 17:54   ` Lee Revell
2006-06-11 18:54     ` David Miller
2006-06-12  9:09       ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-12 11:32       ` Nikita Danilov
2006-06-12 14:52       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-12 20:00         ` David Miller
2006-06-12 22:29           ` Jesper Juhl
2006-06-12 22:48             ` David Miller
2006-06-12 22:57               ` Jesper Juhl
2006-06-13  3:54         ` VGER does gradual SPF activation (FAQ matter) - Alternative Marc Perkel
2006-06-13  4:51           ` David Miller
2006-06-13 13:41       ` VGER does gradual SPF activation (FAQ matter) Athanasius
2006-06-11 17:31 ` Marc Perkel
2006-06-11 18:50 ` Florian Weimer
     [not found] ` <20060611072223.GA16150@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>
2006-06-12  8:32   ` Matti Aarnio
2006-06-12  8:40     ` Russell King
2006-06-12  9:57       ` Neil Brown
2006-06-12 15:55         ` Russell King
2006-06-12 20:06       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2006-06-12 11:22     ` David Woodhouse
2006-06-12 15:41     ` Simon Oosthoek
2006-06-12 22:55       ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-13 17:41       ` Matti Aarnio
2006-06-12  9:05 ` Matthias Andree
2006-06-12 17:28   ` Matthew Frost
2006-06-13  0:12   ` David Woodhouse

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