From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932229AbWFRNtk (ORCPT ); Sun, 18 Jun 2006 09:49:40 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932231AbWFRNtk (ORCPT ); Sun, 18 Jun 2006 09:49:40 -0400 Received: from emailhub.stusta.mhn.de ([141.84.69.5]:41490 "HELO mailout.stusta.mhn.de") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S932229AbWFRNtj (ORCPT ); Sun, 18 Jun 2006 09:49:39 -0400 Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:49:37 +0200 From: Adrian Bunk To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Linux v2.6.17 Message-ID: <20060618134937.GA21463@stusta.de> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 07:06:17PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > On Sat, 17 Jun 2006, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > > Not a lot of changes since the last -rc, the bulk is actually some > > last-minute MIPS updates and s390 futex changes, the rest tend to be > > various very small fixes that trickled in over the last week. > > Btw, one thing that I was planning to ask people - does anybody find the > full-format ChangeLog's that I produce at all useful? > > You can get the exact same information directly from git, and the full > changelog (as opposed to the shortlog) tends to be pretty rough to read, > so I suspect that most people who do want to delve into the details are > actually much more likely to look it up using git instead (at which point > you can obviously get much better information - graphical history, diffs, > etc) > > I'm not going to stop doing the incremental shortlogs, since those are > easy to read and I usually post them with the release announcement unless > they end up being too large (usually -rc1 has a _lot_ of changes as a > result of the merge window), but I'm just wondering if anybody finds the > full logs useful at all? > > They're easy for me to generate, but if nobody uses them, I don't see much > of a point.. I like to read the shortlog for getting an overview of the changes containing a bit more detail than your verbal summary at the top. I need git for getting more detail and I could generate them myself. But if it wasn't there, I might not generate it myself, and might therefore not ask "Why did this patch get into -rc6?" or become curious enough for using git to check the contents of a commit. > Linus cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed