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From: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, greg@kroah.com
Subject: Re: [GIT PATCH] Remove devfs from 2.6.17
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:15:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060619031521.GA4651@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4495F5C3.1030203@zytor.com>

On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 05:54:27PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Samuel Thibault wrote:
> >
> >There has been at least my complaint about udev not being able to
> >auto-load modules on /dev entry lookup (28th March 2006):
> >
> >? Given a freshly booted linux box, hence uinput is not loaded (why
> >would it be, it doesn't drive any real hardware) ; what is the right
> >way(tm) for an application to have the uinput module loaded, so that it
> >can open /dev/input/uinput for emulating keypresses?
> >
> >- With good-old static /dev, we could just open /dev/input/uinput
> >  (installed by the distribution), and thanks to a
> >  alias char-major-10-223 uinput
> >  line somewhere in /etc/modprobe.d, uinput gets auto-loaded.
> >
> >- With devfs, it doesn't look like it works (/dev/misc/uinput is not
> >  present and opening it just like if it existed doesn't work). But I
> >  read in archives that it could be feasible.
> >
> >- With udev, this just cannot work. As explained in an earlier thread,
> >  even using a special filesystem that would report the opening attempt
> >  to udevd wouldn't work fine since udevd takes time for creating the
> >  device, and hence the original program needs to be notified ; this
> >  becomes racy.
> >
> 
> It would be nice if udev could be fed not just from the kernel, but from 
> the repository of modules that are available for loading.  That may 
> require additional module information.

There's no reason it could not be, but usually a simple, "modprobe loop"
works good enough for everyone :)

thanks,

greg k-h

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-06-19  3:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-18 22:13 [GIT PATCH] Remove devfs from 2.6.17 Greg KH
2006-06-18 22:45 ` Michal Piotrowski
2006-06-18 23:06   ` Greg KH
2006-06-18 23:00 ` Samuel Thibault
2006-06-18 23:12   ` Greg KH
2006-06-18 23:35     ` Samuel Thibault
2006-06-19  0:48       ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-19  3:22       ` Greg KH
2006-06-19  8:23         ` Samuel Thibault
2006-06-19  9:30           ` Marcel Holtmann
2006-06-19  9:39             ` Samuel Thibault
2006-06-19 10:22               ` Marcel Holtmann
2006-06-19  0:54   ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-19  1:17     ` Joshua Hudson
2006-06-19  1:35       ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-19  5:55         ` Will Dyson
2006-06-19  7:14           ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2006-06-19 22:14             ` Daniel Barkalow
2006-06-19 22:17               ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-19  3:15     ` Greg KH [this message]
2006-06-19  8:52       ` Samuel Thibault

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