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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: ccb@acm.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] increase spinlock-debug looping timeouts from 1 sec to 1 min
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:12:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060619081252.GA13176@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060619005955.b05840e8.akpm@osdl.org>


* Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:02:29 +0200
> Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> 
> > Subject: increase spinlock-debug looping timeouts from 1 sec to 1 
> > min
> 
> But it's broken.  In the non-debug case we subtract RW_LOCK_BIAS so we 
> know that the writer will get the lock when all readers vacate.  But 
> in the CONFIG_DEBUG_SPINLOCK case we don't do that, with the result 
> that taking a write_lock can take over a second.
> 
> A much, much better fix (which involves visiting all architectures) 
> would be to subtract RW_LOCK_BIAS and _then_ wait for a second.

no. Write-locks are unfair too, and there's no guarantee that writes are 
listened to. That's why nested read_lock() is valid, while nested 
down_read() is invalid.

Take a look at arch/i386/kernel/semaphore.c, __write_lock_failed() just 
adds back the RW_LOCK_BIAS and retries in a loop. There's no difference 
to an open-coded write_trylock loop - unless i'm missing something 
fundamental.

> OK, it's only debug code.  But RH (for one) have decided to ship 
> zillions of kernels with this debug code turned on.

yes - Fedora enables most of the transparent kernel debugging options 
(slab, lock debugging) in rawhide. The current list is:

 CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL=y
 CONFIG_DEBUG_SLAB=y
 CONFIG_DEBUG_SLAB_LEAK=y
 CONFIG_DEBUG_MUTEXES=y
 CONFIG_DEBUG_SPINLOCK=y
 CONFIG_DEBUG_SPINLOCK_SLEEP=y
 CONFIG_DEBUG_HIGHMEM=y
 CONFIG_DEBUG_BUGVERBOSE=y
 CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO=y
 CONFIG_DEBUG_FS=y
 CONFIG_DEBUG_VM=y
 CONFIG_DEBUG_STACKOVERFLOW=y
 CONFIG_DEBUG_STACK_USAGE=y
 CONFIG_DEBUG_RODATA=y
 CONFIG_KEYS_DEBUG_PROC_KEYS=y

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-19  8:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-12 19:53 BUG: write-lock lockup Charles C. Bennett, Jr.
2006-06-17 17:07 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-19  7:02   ` [patch] increase spinlock-debug looping timeouts from 1 sec to 1 min Ingo Molnar
2006-06-19  7:59     ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-19  8:12       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2006-06-19  8:21         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-19  8:32         ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-19  8:35           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-19  9:13             ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-19 11:39               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-19 19:55                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-20  8:06                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-20  8:40                   ` [patch] fix spinlock-debug looping Ingo Molnar
2006-06-20  8:52                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-20  9:15                       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-20  9:32                         ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-20  9:34                           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-20 16:02                           ` Dave Olson

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