From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932223AbWF0NCh (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:02:37 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932268AbWF0NCg (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:02:36 -0400 Received: from mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au ([211.29.132.199]:3553 "EHLO mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932223AbWF0NCf (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:02:35 -0400 From: Con Kolivas To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Incorrect CPU process accounting using CONFIG_HZ=100 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:02:16 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 Cc: Al Boldi , Pavel Machek , Jan Engelhardt References: <200606211716.01472.a1426z@gawab.com> <20060626160239.GA3257@elf.ucw.cz> <200606271532.33368.a1426z@gawab.com> In-Reply-To: <200606271532.33368.a1426z@gawab.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200606272302.16950.kernel@kolivas.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tuesday 27 June 2006 22:32, Al Boldi wrote: > Pavel Machek wrote: > > On Thu 2006-06-22 20:36:39, Al Boldi wrote: > > > Jan Engelhardt wrote: > > > > >Setting CONFIG_HZ=100 results in incorrect CPU process accounting. > > > > > > > > > >This can be seen running top d.1, that shows top, itself, consuming > > > > > 0ms CPUtime. > > > > > > > > > >Will this bug have consequences for sched.c? > > > > > > > > Works for me, somewhat. > > > > TIME+ says 0:00.02 after 70 secs. (Ergo: top is not expensive on this > > > > CPU.) > > > > > > That's what I thought for a long time. But at closer inspection, top > > > d.1 slows down other apps by about the same amount of time at 1000Hz > > > and 100Hz, only at 1000Hz it is accounted for whereas at 100Hz it is > > > not. > > > > It is not a bug... it is design decision. If you eat "too little" cpu > > time, you'll be accouted 0 msec. That's what happens at 100Hz... > > Bummer! > > Meanwhile, can't "too little" cpu time be made relative to CONFIG_HZ? It is and that's what you're perceiving as the problem. We only charge tasks in ticks and it's the tick size they get charged with. So at 100HZ if a task is running when a tick fires it gets charged 1% cpu. If it runs for 100 ticks it gets charged with 100% cpu. At 1000HZ it gets charged .1% cpu per tick and so on. The actual problem is that tasks only get charged if they happen to be running at the precise moment the tick fires. Now you could increase the accuracy of this timekeeping but it is expensive and this is exactly the sort of thing that we're saving cpu resources on by running at 100HZ (one of many). -- -ck