From: "Sebastian Kügler" <sebas@kde.org>
To: suspend2-devel@lists.suspend2.net
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>,
Andreas Mohr <andi@rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@linuxmail.org>
Subject: Re: swsusp / suspend2 reliability (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: Suspend2 - Request for review & inclusion in -mm)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:38:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200606280039.06296.sebas@kde.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060627222234.GP29199@elf.ucw.cz>
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On Wednesday 28 June 2006 00:22, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > uswsusp is a great idea, really.. I love it.. but suspend2 is here, it
> > > works, it's stable and it's now. Why continue to deprive the mainstream
> > > of these features because "uswsusp should".. as yet it doesn't.. and
> > > when it does then we can phase out the currently stable, working
> > > alternative that has all these features that uswsusp _will_ have, after
> > > it's had them for a year or so and its been proven stable. Not only
> > > that, I'll be happy to migrate over to it. Until then however, you can
> > > pry suspend2.. cold, dead.. blah blah..
> >
> > Given the above explanation, it's obvious that I'm an outside watcher
> > now, but if swsusp2 success rate is clearly higher than the standard
> > version, then I'd also strongly advocate this direction since, quite
> > frankly,
>
> I do not think suspend2 works on more machines than in-kernel
> swsusp. Problems are in drivers, and drivers are shared.
>
> That means that if you have machine where suspend2 works and swsusp
> does not, please tell me. I do not think there are many of them.
Maybe not machines, but definitely usage scenarios. I've tried both
implementations lately, and swsusp would often -- especially under high
memory load -- just return from trying, while suspend2 succeeds in freeing
enough memory to be able to suspend _every_ time.
Returning with "sorry, not enough free mem" is definitely nothing you'd want
when you stuff your notebook into the bag because you have to change trains,
for example.
Is that something uswsusp is likely to change anytime soon?
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-06-27 22:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-06-26 15:47 Suspend2 - Request for review & inclusion in -mm Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-27 13:33 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 15:22 ` [Suspend2-devel] " Brad Campbell
2006-06-27 15:41 ` Andreas Mohr
2006-06-27 16:01 ` Avuton Olrich
2006-06-27 22:23 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 22:22 ` swsusp / suspend2 reliability (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: Suspend2 - Request for review & inclusion in -mm) Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 22:38 ` Sebastian Kügler [this message]
2006-06-27 22:51 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 23:18 ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 19:53 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 22:19 ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 22:24 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 22:37 ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 22:46 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 23:06 ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 22:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-06-28 23:09 ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 8:56 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2006-06-28 19:58 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-06 19:15 ` swsusp / suspend2 reliability Jan Rychter
2006-07-07 13:50 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 14:05 ` [Suspend2-devel] " Rohan Dhruva
2006-07-07 18:21 ` David Fox
2006-07-07 21:42 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 15:03 ` dirk husemann
2006-07-07 23:19 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 18:03 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-07 23:18 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 15:19 ` Avuton Olrich
2006-07-07 16:09 ` grundig
2006-07-07 17:44 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-07 21:39 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 21:56 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-07 23:25 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 23:33 ` [Suspend2-devel] " Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 0:04 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 0:28 ` uswsusp history lesson [was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: swsusp / suspend2 reliability] Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 3:42 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 10:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 11:13 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 18:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 22:35 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 11:31 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 11:42 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 12:52 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 13:26 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 21:04 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 22:25 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 18:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 21:10 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 22:28 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 23:54 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09 0:02 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-09 0:09 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09 10:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-11 12:45 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-11 21:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-11 22:01 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-11 22:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-11 23:00 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-12 10:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-12 10:16 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 11:22 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 4:33 ` Avuton Olrich
2006-07-08 11:12 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 11:21 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 4:58 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 9:11 ` uswsusp history lesson Jan Rychter
2006-07-08 10:14 ` [Suspend2-devel] " Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 10:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 11:11 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 11:13 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 11:16 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 11:20 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 13:19 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 22:32 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 16:43 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-08 16:47 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 17:01 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2006-07-08 19:36 ` grundig
2006-07-08 17:49 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-08 18:03 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 21:46 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-09 0:19 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-08 17:39 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-08 23:57 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09 0:03 ` Nigel Cunningham
[not found] ` <ce9ef0d90607080942w685a6b60q7611278856c78ac0@mail.gmail.com>
2006-07-08 16:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 19:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 19:39 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 20:22 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-10 9:11 ` dirk husemann
2006-07-10 9:18 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-10 10:02 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-10 21:49 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-10 23:22 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-10 23:37 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-10 12:45 ` Thomas Tuttle
2006-07-10 13:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
[not found] ` <ce9ef0d90607081248n1f2fc79fw199b493f3ca6313@mail.gmail.com>
2006-07-08 19:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 20:13 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2006-07-08 20:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 22:20 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 23:46 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 23:53 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09 0:18 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-09 0:32 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09 1:05 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-09 13:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-09 21:06 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-09 21:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-09 21:46 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-09 22:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-10 3:57 ` Jason Lunz
2006-07-10 6:20 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-11 14:47 ` Jason Lunz
2006-07-11 20:13 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-10 0:28 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-09 12:15 ` Matthew Garrett
2006-07-09 21:04 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-10 9:10 ` dirk husemann
2006-07-08 0:28 ` [Suspend2-devel] Re: swsusp / suspend2 reliability Bojan Smojver
2006-07-07 19:27 ` Hua Zhong
2006-07-07 21:10 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2006-07-07 23:48 ` Christian Trefzer
2006-06-27 16:50 ` [Suspend2-devel] Re: Suspend2 - Request for review & inclusion in -mm dirk husemann
2006-06-27 19:03 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 19:19 ` Dave Jones
2006-06-27 21:47 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 6:00 ` Brad Campbell
2006-06-28 20:03 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 6:09 ` Markus Gaugusch
[not found] ` <200606271940.23934.jaroslav@aster.pl>
[not found] ` <1e1a7e1b0606280228y6c4a0d19p12f8112d216d1aba@mail.gmail.com>
2006-06-28 11:31 ` [Suspend2-devel] " Tim Dijkstra
2006-06-27 23:37 ` Nigel Cunningham
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