From: Nigel Cunningham <nigel@suspend2.net>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Suspend2][ 0/9] Extents support.
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 09:47:55 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200606280947.58916.nigel@suspend2.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200606280019.32045.rjw@sisk.pl>
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Hi.
On Wednesday 28 June 2006 08:19, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tuesday 27 June 2006 11:35, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> > On Tuesday 27 June 2006 19:26, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > > > Now I haven't followed the suspend2 vs swsusp debate very closely,
> > > > > but it seems to me that your biggest problem with getting this
> > > > > merged is getting consensus on where exactly this is going. Nobody
> > > > > wants two different suspend modules in the kernel. So there are two
> > > > > options - suspend2 is deemed the way to go, and it gets merged and
> > > > > replaces swsusp. Or the other way around - people like swsusp more,
> > > > > and you are doomed to maintain suspend2 outside the tree.
> > > >
> > > > Generally, I agree, although my understanding of Rafael and Pavel's
> > > > mindset is that swsusp is a dead dog and uswsusp is the way they want
> > > > to see things go. swsusp is only staying for backwards compatability.
> > > > If that's the case, perhaps we can just replace swsusp with Suspend2
> > > > and let them have their existing interface for uswsusp. Still not
> > > > ideal, I agree, but it would be progress.
> > >
> > > Well, ususpend needs some core functionality to be provided by the
> > > kernel, like freezing/thawing processes (this is also used by the STR),
> > > snapshotting the system memory. These should be shared with the
> > > in-kernel suspend, be it swsusp or suspend2.
> >
> > If I modify suspend2 so that from now on it replaces swsusp, using
> > noresume, resume= and echo disk > /sys/power/state in a way that's
> > backward compatible with swsusp and doesn't interfere with uswsusp
> > support, would you be happy? IIRC, Pavel has said in the past he wishes
> > I'd just do that, but he's not you of course.
>
> That depends on how it's done. For sure, I wouldn't like it to be done in
> the "everything at once" manner.
I'm not sure I get what you're saying. Do you mean you'd prefer them to
coexist for a time in mainline? If so, I'd point out that suspend2 uses
different parameters at the moment precisely so they can coexist, so that
wouldn't be any change.
Regards,
Nigel
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Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-06-26 16:54 [Suspend2][ 0/9] Extents support Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-26 16:54 ` [Suspend2][ 1/9] [Suspend2] Extents header Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-26 16:54 ` [Suspend2][ 2/9] [Suspend2] Extent allocation routines Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-26 16:54 ` [Suspend2][ 3/9] [Suspend2] Free a whole extent chain Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-26 16:54 ` [Suspend2][ 4/9] [Suspend2] Add extent to " Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-26 16:54 ` [Suspend2][ 5/9] [Suspend2] Serialise extent chains Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-26 16:54 ` [Suspend2][ 6/9] [Suspend2] Get next extent in an extent state Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-26 16:54 ` [Suspend2][ 7/9] [Suspend2] Extent state to the start Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-26 16:54 ` [Suspend2][ 8/9] [Suspend2] Extent state save and restore Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-26 16:54 ` [Suspend2][ 9/9] [Suspend2] Extent header Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-26 21:20 ` [Suspend2][ 0/9] Extents support Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-06-27 4:28 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-27 5:36 ` Jens Axboe
2006-06-27 5:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-27 7:05 ` Jens Axboe
2006-06-27 7:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-27 7:59 ` Jens Axboe
2006-06-27 8:12 ` Greg KH
2006-06-27 8:22 ` Jens Axboe
2006-06-27 8:58 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-28 21:11 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 22:25 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-28 22:44 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 23:14 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-30 17:36 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-29 3:11 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-06-27 9:07 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-27 9:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-06-27 9:35 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-27 22:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-06-27 23:47 ` Nigel Cunningham [this message]
2006-06-28 22:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-06-28 23:26 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-29 20:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-06-30 17:58 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 11:28 ` Rahul Karnik
2006-06-28 12:42 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-28 14:42 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-06-28 23:37 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-29 5:19 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-06-29 5:44 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-29 21:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-06-30 17:55 ` suspend2 merge [was Re: [Suspend2][ 0/9] Extents support.] Pavel Machek
2006-07-01 9:31 ` Dumitru Ciobarcianu
2006-06-28 22:41 ` [Suspend2][ 0/9] Extents support Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-06-28 14:37 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-06-28 21:05 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 7:06 ` Greg KH
2006-06-27 7:27 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-27 7:53 ` Greg KH
2006-06-27 9:08 ` Nigel Cunningham
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