From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932359AbWF3O4V (ORCPT ); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:56:21 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751794AbWF3O4U (ORCPT ); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:56:20 -0400 Received: from host36-195-149-62.serverdedicati.aruba.it ([62.149.195.36]:53738 "EHLO mx.cpushare.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751789AbWF3O4U (ORCPT ); Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:56:20 -0400 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:58:25 +0200 From: andrea@cpushare.com To: Ingo Molnar Cc: Adrian Bunk , Andrew Morton , Lee Revell , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alan Cox , Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] let CONFIG_SECCOMP default to n Message-ID: <20060630145825.GA10667@opteron.random> References: <20060629192121.GC19712@stusta.de> <1151628246.22380.58.camel@mindpipe> <20060629180706.64a58f95.akpm@osdl.org> <20060630014050.GI19712@stusta.de> <20060630045228.GA14677@opteron.random> <20060630094753.GA14603@elte.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060630094753.GA14603@elte.hu> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 11:47:53AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > and both are pledged and available to GPL users. [..] If the GPL offered any protection to my system software I would consider it too, but the GPL can't protect software that runs behind the corporate firewall. You know google can change the kernel without having to release anything back (note that they a few times posted me patches and fixes, so they at least try to contribute their changes back to the community, it's in their interest I think, but I'm just saying they're not _required_ to publish the exact copy of the kernel that runs on their servers, if I'm wrong then please send me the link where to download it). So if I would release my software as GPL anybody with a bigger web farm than I have could install it, throw some million on ads, and then I could just setup a redirect from my server that points at theirs because I would have no chance to survive a competitor with better financing. Make a license that forces them to release the software behind the firewall like they have to do if they offer it as download, and I will think about it. And at the moment thinking about it or trying writing a license like that myself, is just wasted time. I'll think about these matters only if it will accepted. And for yours that covers the http optimizations inside the http accellerator, apache and other open source webservers aren't GPL and if you only pledged it under the GPL like you suggest above, apache still is forbidden to use your technique: http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=5&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PG01&s1=molnar&s2=ingo&OS=molnar+AND+ingo&RS=molnar+AND+ingo Same goes for sendmail in the mail one, assuming it has something to do with the mail (I didn't read it all since it's not my field of interest). If I've to keep reading these threads about CONFIG_SECCOMP every few months then set it to N (even if I disagree with that setting). Like Alan said, what really matters is what distro will choose in their config, not the default (and I doubt fedora ships with cifs=Y like the default where only the required stuff is set to Y, please focus on the big stuff first ;).