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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Olivier Galibert <galibert@pobox.com>,
	James Courtier-Dutton <James@superbug.co.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	perex@suse.cz, Olaf Hering <olh@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Alsa-devel] OSS driver removal, 2nd round
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 18:01:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060701160123.GB17588@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060630163114.GA12874@dspnet.fr.eu.org>

On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 06:31:14PM +0200, Olivier Galibert wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 05:13:02PM +0100, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
> > Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > >- ALSA #1735 (OSS emulation 4-channel mode rear channels not working)
> > 
> > As the MAINTAINER of EMU10K1, I am happy for EMU10K1 driver to be 
> > removed from the kernel.
> > 
> > ALSA #1735 is now closed. All the apps the user was trying also support 
> > ALSA natively now, so OSS is not needed.
> 
> Are you joking ?

Besides what was already mentioned in this thread, let me add some 
points:
- most Linux applications already support ALSA
- kernel 2.6.0 with ALSA as default sound system was released in 2003
- the ALSA developers provide an in-kernel OSS emulation
- the ALSA developers provide an alternative user space OSS emulation
- there are many new soundcards without any OSS driver at all [1]

Compatibility is important, and it's nearly always working
(e.g. "aoss audacity" works for me perfectly).

There are only few exotic cornercases like ALSA #1735 where a subset of 
the OSS functionality is not working in the OSS emulation - and I doubt 
it would be worth putting much effort into fixing such cornercases.

>   OG.

cu
Adrian

[1] we are talking about the in-kernel OSS drivers, not the
    commercial OSS

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-07-01 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-29 19:21 OSS driver removal, 2nd round Adrian Bunk
2006-06-30 15:48 ` Ralf Baechle
2006-06-30 16:13 ` [Alsa-devel] " James Courtier-Dutton
2006-06-30 16:31   ` Olivier Galibert
2006-06-30 21:29     ` Lee Revell
2006-06-30 21:34       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-30 21:54         ` Lee Revell
2006-07-01  8:54         ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-01 13:54           ` Lee Revell
2006-07-01 22:51             ` Jan Engelhardt
     [not found]       ` <200607010042.15765.ismail@pardus.org.tr>
2006-06-30 21:56         ` Lee Revell
     [not found]           ` <200607010249.05140.ismail@pardus.org.tr>
2006-07-03 22:38             ` Bill Davidsen
2006-07-05  7:27               ` Stefan Smietanowski
2006-07-05 19:34                 ` Lee Revell
2006-07-05 21:56                   ` Alan Cox
2006-07-01  7:31       ` [Alsa-devel] " Olivier Galibert
2006-07-01  7:43         ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-07-01 13:52           ` Lee Revell
2006-07-02  6:55           ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-07-02  9:58             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-02 15:28               ` Lee Revell
2006-07-02 21:08                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-02 21:16                   ` Lee Revell
2006-07-03  9:26                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-05  7:29                   ` Stefan Smietanowski
2006-07-01  9:26         ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-07-01 16:01     ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2006-07-01 23:12 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-03 11:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-07-03 19:42   ` Adrian Bunk

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