From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751186AbWGGNun (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 Jul 2006 09:50:43 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751197AbWGGNun (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 Jul 2006 09:50:43 -0400 Received: from gprs189-60.eurotel.cz ([160.218.189.60]:19717 "EHLO spitz.ucw.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751186AbWGGNum (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 Jul 2006 09:50:42 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 13:50:31 +0000 From: Pavel Machek To: Jan Rychter Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, suspend2-devel@lists.suspend2.net Subject: Re: swsusp / suspend2 reliability Message-ID: <20060707135031.GA4239@ucw.cz> References: <200606270147.16501.ncunningham@linuxmail.org> <20060627133321.GB3019@elf.ucw.cz> <44A14D3D.8060003@wasp.net.au> <20060627154130.GA31351@rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de> <20060627222234.GP29199@elf.ucw.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi! > Pavel> I do not think suspend2 works on more machines than in-kernel > Pavel> swsusp. Problems are in drivers, and drivers are shared. > > Pavel> That means that if you have machine where suspend2 works and > Pavel> swsusp does not, please tell me. I do not think there are many > Pavel> of them. > > Accept the facts -- for some reason, there is a fairly large user base > that goes to all the bother of using suspend2, which requires ... > That is a fact, and all the hand waving won't change it. Users like suspend2 eye candy => swsusp must be unreliable? I know users that installed swsusp, decided they want progress bars, and went for suspend2. > I'm tired of this. It's taking years for Linux to get reasonably working > suspend facilities, which is a shame. In my opinion a large part of the > problem is you opposing Nigel's patches. Problem is, for many people > Nigel's code works while yours does not. Nigel only submitted his code once, month or so ago, as series of 200 or so patches. Do not blame me for _that_. Pavel -- Thanks for all the (sleeping) penguins.