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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Bojan Smojver <bojan@rexursive.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Sunil Kumar <devsku@gmail.com>, Avuton Olrich <avuton@gmail.com>,
	Olivier Galibert <galibert@pobox.com>,
	Jan Rychter <jan@rychter.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, suspend2-devel@lists.suspend2.net,
	grundig <grundig@teleline.es>,
	Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@linuxmail.org>
Subject: Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: uswsusp history lesson
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 01:53:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060708235336.GF2546@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1152402366.2584.10.camel@coyote.rexursive.com>

On Sun 2006-07-09 09:46:06, Bojan Smojver wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-07-08 at 21:25 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> 
> > Now there seem to be two possible ways to go:
> > 1) Drop the implementation that already is in the kernel and replace it with
> > the out-of-the-tree one.
> > 2) Improve the one that already is in the kernel incrementally, possibly
> > merging some code from the out-of-the-tree implementation, so that it's as
> > feature-rich as the other one.
> > 
> > Apparently 1) is what Nigel is trying to make happen and 2) is what I'd like
> > to do.
> 
> I didn't get the impression from 1) at all. If anything, Nigel has been
> busy making Suspend2 use swsusp machinery *more*, not less as of
> recently. If he wanted to drop swsusp completely, why would he do
> something like that?
> 
> But, the confusing bit for me here is 2). Given that you're the man for
> uswsusp, why would you want to keep any of the in-kernel
> implementations? The only thing that crosses my mind right now is that
> uswsusp may be a bit heavy on setup, so Linux distros/users that may not
> have the luxury of doing all that would be left without a suspend/resume
> solution. Is that why you want to keep an in-kernel implementation as
> well? Or is there some other reason?

swsusp/uswsusp share 75% or so of code, and we can't really drop
swsusp soon, because that would break existing setups. Warning
year-or-so ahead is needed to do such big changes. Plus you are quite
right n that "heavy to setup" thing.
								Pavel
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  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-08 23:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-26 15:47 Suspend2 - Request for review & inclusion in -mm Nigel Cunningham
2006-06-27 13:33 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 15:22   ` [Suspend2-devel] " Brad Campbell
2006-06-27 15:41     ` Andreas Mohr
2006-06-27 16:01       ` Avuton Olrich
2006-06-27 22:23         ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 22:22       ` swsusp / suspend2 reliability (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: Suspend2 - Request for review & inclusion in -mm) Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 22:38         ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-27 22:51           ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 23:18             ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 19:53               ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 22:19                 ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 22:24                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 22:37                     ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 22:46                       ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28 23:06                         ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28 22:52                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-06-28 23:09                     ` Sebastian Kügler
2006-06-28  8:56         ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2006-06-28 19:58           ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-06 19:15         ` swsusp / suspend2 reliability Jan Rychter
2006-07-07 13:50           ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 14:05             ` [Suspend2-devel] " Rohan Dhruva
2006-07-07 18:21               ` David Fox
2006-07-07 21:42                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 15:03             ` dirk husemann
2006-07-07 23:19               ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 18:03             ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-07 23:18               ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 15:19           ` Avuton Olrich
2006-07-07 16:09             ` grundig
2006-07-07 17:44               ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-07 21:39                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 21:56                   ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-07 23:25                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-07 23:33                       ` [Suspend2-devel] " Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08  0:04                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08  0:28                         ` uswsusp history lesson [was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: swsusp / suspend2 reliability] Pavel Machek
2006-07-08  3:42                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 10:38                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 11:13                               ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 18:34                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 22:35                                   ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 11:31                               ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 11:42                                 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 12:52                                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 13:26                                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 21:04                                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 22:25                                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 18:52                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 21:10                                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 22:28                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 23:54                                       ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09  0:02                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-09  0:09                                           ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09 10:03                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-11 12:45                                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-11 21:54                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-11 22:01                                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-11 22:34                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-11 23:00                                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-12 10:09                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-12 10:16                                               ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 11:22                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08  4:33                           ` Avuton Olrich
2006-07-08 11:12                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 11:21                               ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08  4:58                           ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08  9:11                           ` uswsusp history lesson Jan Rychter
2006-07-08 10:14                             ` [Suspend2-devel] " Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 10:41                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 11:11                                 ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 11:13                                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-08 11:16                                     ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 11:20                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 13:19                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 22:32                                     ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 16:43                                 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-08 16:47                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 17:01                                     ` Alon Bar-Lev
2006-07-08 19:36                                       ` grundig
2006-07-08 17:49                                     ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-08 18:03                                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 21:46                                       ` Alan Cox
2006-07-09  0:19                                         ` Olivier Galibert
2006-07-08 17:39                                   ` Alan Cox
2006-07-08 23:57                                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09  0:03                                       ` Nigel Cunningham
     [not found]                                 ` <ce9ef0d90607080942w685a6b60q7611278856c78ac0@mail.gmail.com>
2006-07-08 16:50                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 19:25                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 19:39                                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-08 20:22                                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-10  9:11                                         ` dirk husemann
2006-07-10  9:18                                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-10 10:02                                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-10 21:49                                               ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-10 23:22                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-10 23:37                                                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-10 12:45                                             ` Thomas Tuttle
2006-07-10 13:05                                               ` Arjan van de Ven
     [not found]                                       ` <ce9ef0d90607081248n1f2fc79fw199b493f3ca6313@mail.gmail.com>
2006-07-08 19:58                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 20:13                                           ` Alon Bar-Lev
2006-07-08 20:23                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-08 22:20                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-08 23:46                                       ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-08 23:53                                         ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2006-07-09  0:18                                           ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-09  0:32                                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-09  1:05                                               ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-09 13:51                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-09 21:06                                                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-09 21:36                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-09 21:46                                                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-09 22:30                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-10  3:57                                                     ` Jason Lunz
2006-07-10  6:20                                                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-11 14:47                                                         ` Jason Lunz
2006-07-11 20:13                                                           ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-10  0:28                                                   ` Bojan Smojver
2006-07-09 12:15                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2006-07-09 21:04                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-10  9:10                                       ` dirk husemann
2006-07-08  0:28                       ` [Suspend2-devel] Re: swsusp / suspend2 reliability Bojan Smojver
2006-07-07 19:27           ` Hua Zhong
2006-07-07 21:10             ` Alon Bar-Lev
2006-07-07 23:48               ` Christian Trefzer
2006-06-27 16:50     ` [Suspend2-devel] Re: Suspend2 - Request for review & inclusion in -mm dirk husemann
2006-06-27 19:03     ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 19:19       ` Dave Jones
2006-06-27 21:47         ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28  6:00       ` Brad Campbell
2006-06-28 20:03         ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-28  6:09       ` Markus Gaugusch
     [not found]     ` <200606271940.23934.jaroslav@aster.pl>
     [not found]       ` <1e1a7e1b0606280228y6c4a0d19p12f8112d216d1aba@mail.gmail.com>
2006-06-28 11:31         ` [Suspend2-devel] " Tim Dijkstra
2006-06-27 23:37   ` Nigel Cunningham

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