From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964864AbWGJN5F (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:57:05 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S965014AbWGJN5F (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:57:05 -0400 Received: from mailout.stusta.mhn.de ([141.84.69.5]:57094 "HELO mailout.stusta.mhn.de") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S964864AbWGJN5E (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:57:04 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 15:57:02 +0200 From: Adrian Bunk To: Adam =?utf-8?Q?Tla=C5=82ka?= Cc: Lee Revell , alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, ak@suse.de, perex@suse.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [Alsa-devel] OSS driver removal, 2nd round (v2) Message-ID: <20060710135702.GZ13938@stusta.de> References: <20060707231716.GE26941@stusta.de> <1152458300.28129.45.camel@mindpipe> <20060710132810.551a4a8d.atlka@pg.gda.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20060710132810.551a4a8d.atlka@pg.gda.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 01:28:10PM +0200, Adam Tlałka wrote: > On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 11:18:19 -0400 > Lee Revell wrote: > > > On Sat, 2006-07-08 at 01:50 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote: > > > Adrian Bunk writes: > > > > > > > > Q: What about the OSS emulation in ALSA? > > > > A: The OSS emulation in ALSA is not affected by my patches > > > > (and it's not in any way scheduled for removal). > > > > > > I again object to removing the old ICH sound driver. > > > It does the same as the Alsa driver in much less code and is ideal > > > for generic monolithic kernels > > > > It doesn't do the same thing - software mixing is impossible with OSS. > > Only GPL'ed version has this limitation - its just not implemented because all this > GPL'ed OSS is abandoned. > The commercial version from www.opensound.com does input/output mixing > in software in kernel space. >... When we are talking about OSS, we are talking about what is under sound/oss/ in the kernel sources. The commercial OSS might be much better, but it's not relevant since it's not GPL'ed and therefore not a candidate for inclusion into the kernel. As you said yourself, the "GPL'ed OSS is abandoned". And ALSA is it's successor in the kernel. cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed