From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932166AbWGKV6l (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 Jul 2006 17:58:41 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932168AbWGKV6l (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 Jul 2006 17:58:41 -0400 Received: from ns1.suse.de ([195.135.220.2]:42949 "EHLO mx1.suse.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932166AbWGKV6k (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 Jul 2006 17:58:40 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 14:54:22 -0700 From: Greg KH To: Jon Smirl Cc: Alan Cox , "H. Peter Anvin" , lkml , Andrew Morton Subject: Re: [PATCH] Clean up old names in tty code to current names Message-ID: <20060711215422.GB663@kroah.com> References: <9e4733910607092111i4c41c610u8b9df5b917cca02c@mail.gmail.com> <1152524657.27368.108.camel@localhost.localdomain> <9e4733910607100541i744dd744n16c35c50dae1e98d@mail.gmail.com> <1152537049.27368.119.camel@localhost.localdomain> <9e4733910607100603r5ae1a21ex1a2fa0f045424fd1@mail.gmail.com> <1152539034.27368.124.camel@localhost.localdomain> <9e4733910607100707g4810a86boa93a5b6b0b1a8d0a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9e4733910607100707g4810a86boa93a5b6b0b1a8d0a@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 10:07:41AM -0400, Jon Smirl wrote: > >> I'm not going to solve this problem but it is something that needs to > >> be discussed. Are we really going to maintain parallel naming schemes, > >> one in-kernel and one out of kernel? I'm not even sure if USB will > >> work without udev anymore. > > > >It works fine, it would not suprise me if udev users were still the > >minority case in fact. Well, as more modern distros spread, the number of users is getting bigger.. > If I use udev to rename my devices, the names aren't going to match > /proc/tty and what ps shows. Same problem happens if you use 'mv'. Are you going to blame the kernel on that problem too? > The idea behind udev is that the kernel only deals in device numbers > and all naming happens in user space. Please stop saying this, it is just not true at all, and never has been. thanks, greg k-h