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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sysctl: Allow /proc/sys without sys_sysctl
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 15:32:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200607121532.05227.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1sll7ecr4.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>

On Wednesday 12 July 2006 05:13, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de> writes:
> > ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) writes:
> >> Since sys_sysctl is deprecated start allow it to be compiled out.
> >> This should catch any remaining user space code that cares,
> >
> > I tried this long ago, but found that glibc uses sysctl in each
> > program to get the kernel version. It probably handles ENOSYS,
> > but there might be slowdowns or subtle problems from it not knowing
> > the kernel version.
> >
> > So I think it's ok to remove the big sysctl, but at a very minimal
> > replacement that just handles (CTL_KERN, KERN_VERSION) is needed.
>
> If glibc is looking at kernel.osrelease it might make sense.
> If glibc is looking at kernel.version which is just the build number
> and date I can't imagine a correct usage.

It's KERN_VERSION 

>From my /bin/ls:

_sysctl({{CTL_KERN, KERN_VERSION}, 2, 0xbfc8e1e0, 30, (nil), 0}) = 0

> If this usage is still common in glibc we can decide what to do
> when the warnings pop up.

printk for everything would annoy basically everybody. Not a good idea.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-12 13:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-10 22:38 [PATCH] sysctl: Allow /proc/sys without sys_sysctl Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-10 22:48 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-07-11  4:00   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-11  4:19 ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-11  6:57   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-11  7:04     ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-11  7:52       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-11  8:05         ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-11  7:23   ` [PATCH] sysctl: Scream if someone uses sys_sysctl Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-11 22:26 ` [PATCH] sysctl: Allow /proc/sys without sys_sysctl Andi Kleen
2006-07-12  3:13   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 13:32     ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2006-07-12 14:47       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 14:52         ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-12 15:32           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 16:08             ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-12 16:36               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 18:24                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-07-12 19:58                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-13  0:52                     ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-14 20:09                       ` H. Peter Anvin

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