From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750742AbWGMAwa (ORCPT ); Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:52:30 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751473AbWGMAwa (ORCPT ); Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:52:30 -0400 Received: from thunk.org ([69.25.196.29]:65442 "EHLO thunker.thunk.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750742AbWGMAwa (ORCPT ); Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:52:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:52:18 -0400 From: Theodore Tso To: Arjan van de Ven Cc: Stephen Hemminger , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] sysctl: Allow /proc/sys without sys_sysctl Message-ID: <20060713005218.GK9040@thunk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Theodore Tso , Arjan van de Ven , Stephen Hemminger , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <200607121652.21920.ak@suse.de> <200607121808.26555.ak@suse.de> <20060712112432.0cd5996f@dxpl.pdx.osdl.net> <1152734309.3217.71.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1152734309.3217.71.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@thunk.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on thunker.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 09:58:29PM +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Wed, 2006-07-12 at 11:24 -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > > What is the motivation behind killing the sys_sysctl call anyway? > > Sure its more ugly esthetically but it works. > > it "works" but the thing is that the number space is NOT stable, and as > such it's a really bad ABI To be fair, the older, "base" numbers are actually stable, such as what glibc is depending on, have in practice been quite stable. It's only the newer fields that tend to be unstable. But that means we can afford to do an orderly migration away from it; it's not something that has to be urgently done within a few weeks or even a few months. - Ted