From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
"Randy.Dunlap" <rdunlap@xenotime.net>,
akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Use uname not sysctl to get the kernel revision
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 14:15:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200607131415.49075.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060713001222.GJ9040@thunk.org>
On Thursday 13 July 2006 02:12, Theodore Tso wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 01:31:46AM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > glibc still works, just slower. But I think the best strategy
> > is just to emulate the single sysctl glibc is using and printk
> > for the rest.
>
> That sounds reasonable, yes.
>
> > > point is moot. But at the same time, what is the cost of leaving
> > > sys_sysctl in the kernel for an extra 6-12 months, or even longer,
> > > starting from now?
> >
> > The numerical namespace for sysctl is unsalvagable imho. e.g.
> > distributions regularly break it because there is no central repository
> > of numbers so it's not very usable anyways in practice.
>
> That may be true, but it doesn't answer the question, what's the cost
> of leaving in sys_sysctl in there for now?
For once linux/sysctl.h is one of the biggest source of patch rejects.
The sooner it goes the better.
>
> In any case, if we really do want to get rid of it, the next step
> should be a working deprecation printk
It was in there for months already.
> and adding something to
> Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt.
That is what Eric's patch did.
-Andi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-13 12:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-10 22:39 [PATCH] sysctl: Document that sys_sysctl will be removed Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-10 22:50 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-07-11 4:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-11 7:07 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-12 16:25 ` [PATCH] Use uname not sysctl to get the kernel revision Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 16:50 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-12 17:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 23:24 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-12 23:31 ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-13 0:12 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-13 2:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 12:15 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2006-07-12 23:44 ` Steve Munroe
2006-07-14 18:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-07-14 19:09 ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-13 0:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 18:44 ` Roland McGrath
2006-07-12 19:33 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-12 19:53 ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-07-12 20:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-12 21:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 21:29 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-12 21:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 22:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-12 22:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-12 22:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 22:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-12 23:07 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-12 23:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-13 11:15 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-14 18:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-07-14 19:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-12 21:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-12 21:33 ` Michael Tokarev
2006-07-13 5:17 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-13 6:27 ` Ian Wienand
2006-07-13 14:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 15:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-07-13 5:00 Albert Cahalan
2006-07-13 5:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-13 6:09 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-07-13 6:13 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-07-13 6:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 16:15 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-07-13 16:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 17:06 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-07-13 15:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
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