From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932106AbWGQF33 (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Jul 2006 01:29:29 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932232AbWGQF32 (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Jul 2006 01:29:28 -0400 Received: from ftp.linux-mips.org ([194.74.144.162]:39903 "EHLO ftp.linux-mips.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932106AbWGQF32 (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 Jul 2006 01:29:28 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 01:21:57 -0400 From: Ralf Baechle To: Arjan van de Ven Cc: Albert Cahalan , dwmw2@infradead.org, maillist@jg555.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net Subject: Re: 2.6.18 Headers - Long Message-ID: <20060717052157.GA3674@linux-mips.org> References: <787b0d920607151409q4d0dfcc1wc787d9dfe7b0a897@mail.gmail.com> <1152998347.3114.36.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1152998347.3114.36.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 11:19:06PM +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > The attraction is that the kernel abstractions are very nice. > > Much of the POSIX API sucks ass. The kernel stuff is NOT crap. > > > > Here we have a full-featured set of atomic ops, > > which are not atomic actually in userspace (hint: most apps don't have > CONFIG_SMP set) Atomic ops for some architectures / configuration won't even work at al in userspace because they're implemented by disabling interrupts. Ralf