From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
Chuck Ebbert <76306.1226@compuserve.com>,
Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] Reorganize the cpufreq cpu hotplug locking to not be totally bizare
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 03:40:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060727014049.GA13187@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0607261422110.4168@g5.osdl.org>
* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> wrote:
> But I agree with Arjan - I think the fundamental problem is that cpu
> hotplug locking is just is fundamentally badly designed as-is. There's
> really very little point to making it a _lock_ per se, since most
> people really want more of a "I'm using this CPU, don't try to remove
> it right now" thing which is more of a ref-counting-like issue.
we'd also need a facility to wait on that refcount - i.e. a waitqueue.
Which means we'd have a "refcount + waitqueue", which is equivalent to a
"recursive, sleeping read-lock", where the write-side could be used as a
simple facility to "wait for all readers to go away and block new
readers from entering the critical sections". [which type of lock Linux
does not have right now. rwsems come the closest but they dont recurse.]
Also, the hotplug lock is global right now which is pretty unscalable,
so the rw-mutex should also be per-CPU, and the hotplug locking API
should be changed to something like:
cpu = cpu_hotplug_lock();
...
cpu_hotplug_unlock(cpu);
To enable a task to schedule away (and potentially migrate to another
CPU) with the per-CPU lock held but still be able to unlock the right
per-cpu lock. [this above approach is quite similar to how we do
sleeping per-cpu locks in -rt.]
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-27 1:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-25 0:21 remove cpu hotplug bustification in cpufreq Chuck Ebbert
2006-07-25 0:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-25 15:06 ` Erik Mouw
2006-07-25 18:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-07-25 19:30 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-25 20:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-26 13:40 ` [patch] Reorganize the cpufreq cpu hotplug locking to not be totally bizare Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-26 15:51 ` Dave Jones
2006-07-26 17:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-26 19:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-26 20:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-26 20:58 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-07-26 21:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-26 21:38 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-27 1:40 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2006-07-27 17:38 ` Ashok Raj
2006-07-29 13:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-07-26 21:15 ` Ashok Raj
2006-07-27 19:29 ` Langsdorf, Mark
2006-07-28 13:50 ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-28 17:09 ` Langsdorf, Mark
2006-07-26 20:42 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-07-26 21:03 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-26 21:21 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-07-26 21:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-26 21:33 ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-26 22:35 ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2006-07-26 22:44 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-25 20:46 ` remove cpu hotplug bustification in cpufreq Dave Jones
2006-07-25 20:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-26 17:12 ` Russell King
2006-07-26 17:53 ` Dave Jones
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