From: Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
Chuck Ebbert <76306.1226@compuserve.com>,
Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] Reorganize the cpufreq cpu hotplug locking to not be totally bizare
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:38:12 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060727103811.A29962@unix-os.sc.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060727014049.GA13187@elte.hu>; from mingo@elte.hu on Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 03:40:49AM +0200
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 03:40:49AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> wrote:
>
> > But I agree with Arjan - I think the fundamental problem is that cpu
> > hotplug locking is just is fundamentally badly designed as-is. There's
> > really very little point to making it a _lock_ per se, since most
> > people really want more of a "I'm using this CPU, don't try to remove
> > it right now" thing which is more of a ref-counting-like issue.
>
> we'd also need a facility to wait on that refcount - i.e. a waitqueue.
> Which means we'd have a "refcount + waitqueue", which is equivalent to a
> "recursive, sleeping read-lock", where the write-side could be used as a
> simple facility to "wait for all readers to go away and block new
> readers from entering the critical sections". [which type of lock Linux
> does not have right now. rwsems come the closest but they dont recurse.]
sounds like some varient of conditional variables, caveat might be that
new readers permitted if in the same call thread/cpu?
(i.e recurive inside the same context?)
for e.g with the cpufreq kind of usage today,
cpu_down()
waits for ref to drop to zero;
// now signalled by last reader when refcnt drops to 0
do pre-remove-notify---> cpufreq
// this attempt to acquire read lock again shoudnt be blocked right
// even though we have officially started waiting for cnt to drop 0?
problem was with the kondemand() when a remove_wq() caused a flush_wq()
that started to yeild and run the other wq thread. Now the depth control
that checked if the locking_task == current wasnt true that caused the
dead lock again.
>
> Also, the hotplug lock is global right now which is pretty unscalable,
> so the rw-mutex should also be per-CPU, and the hotplug locking API
> should be changed to something like:
>
> cpu = cpu_hotplug_lock();
so this is sort of like the get_cpu()/put_cpu() interface that does
preempt_disable() + get current cpu.
--
Cheers,
Ashok Raj
- Open Source Technology Center
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-27 17:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-25 0:21 remove cpu hotplug bustification in cpufreq Chuck Ebbert
2006-07-25 0:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-25 15:06 ` Erik Mouw
2006-07-25 18:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-07-25 19:30 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-25 20:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-26 13:40 ` [patch] Reorganize the cpufreq cpu hotplug locking to not be totally bizare Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-26 15:51 ` Dave Jones
2006-07-26 17:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-26 19:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-26 20:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-26 20:58 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-07-26 21:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-26 21:38 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-27 1:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-07-27 17:38 ` Ashok Raj [this message]
2006-07-29 13:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-07-26 21:15 ` Ashok Raj
2006-07-27 19:29 ` Langsdorf, Mark
2006-07-28 13:50 ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-28 17:09 ` Langsdorf, Mark
2006-07-26 20:42 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-07-26 21:03 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-26 21:21 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-07-26 21:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-07-26 21:33 ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-26 22:35 ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2006-07-26 22:44 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-25 20:46 ` remove cpu hotplug bustification in cpufreq Dave Jones
2006-07-25 20:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-26 17:12 ` Russell King
2006-07-26 17:53 ` Dave Jones
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