From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932308AbWGaUGu (ORCPT ); Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:06:50 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932340AbWGaUGu (ORCPT ); Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:06:50 -0400 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.175]:3313 "EHLO ug-out-1314.google.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932308AbWGaUGu (ORCPT ); Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:06:50 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=googlemail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=HZUwWGCJuqEduSFNiLXyhXxocAYiLaqQNz5AAeWWK6uiiIcvAOy+7kUzyu5Zc2m9jiV2qaJ0uT8B3vLpIMDSODD0v+kvxqDnb/6Wo5MFvCWaRzODRGfnftknaySJMS9VX58MNgCl8f0rZDoEW8AVYxZyKCFH2GQ9MyRhxtpCoNg= From: Denis Vlasenko To: "Horst H. von Brand" , reiser@namesys.com Subject: Re: reiser4: maybe just fix bugs? Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:06:42 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <200607311617.k6VGH3YH009055@laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl> In-Reply-To: <200607311617.k6VGH3YH009055@laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200607312206.42240.vda.linux@googlemail.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Monday 31 July 2006 18:17, Horst H. von Brand wrote: > > Not too bad when compared to other FSes, but still. > > How did you compare? Because as I can see on lkml, other FSes also have deadlock-on-oom bugs. Linus also talked about ext3 inodes being insanely big. > > When singled out, none of these things are bad enough to hold off > > inclusion. However, combined impact of _both_ of them > > did upset maintainers enough. > > Plus a, lets say, less than cooperative overall attitude, and a marked > tendency to try to sneak changes in by political arm-twisting. Yes, this is present to a degree. > > Frankly, on the first problem I think that you are right, Hans, and > > putting plugins into VFS _now_ makes little sense because we can't know > > whether anybody will ever want to have plugins for some other FS, so > > requiring reiser people to do all the shuffling _now_ for questionable > > gain is simply not fair. It can be done later if needed. > > You are wrong. ReiserFS has no "right" to be allowed into the kernel. JBD is factored out. So far it was a wasted effort - nobody uses JBD except ext3. -- vda