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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>, Jack Lo <jlo@vmware.com>,
	v4l-dvb-maintainer@linuxtv.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Options depending on STANDALONE
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:25:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060803202543.GH25692@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060803195617.GD16927@redhat.com>

On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 03:56:17PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 12:36:00PM -0700, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> 
>  > > That is good to know.  But there is a kernel option which doesn't make 
>  > > much sense in that case:
>  > > 
>  > > [*] Select only drivers that don't need compile-time external firmware
>  > 
>  > No, that is very different.  That option is present if you don't want to
>  > build some firmware images from the source that is present in the kernel
>  > tree, and instead, use the pre-built stuff that is also present in the
>  > kernel tree.
> 
> You're describing PREVENT_FIRMWARE_BUILD.  The text Zach quoted is from
> STANDALONE, which is something else completely.  That allows us to not
> build drivers that pull in things from /etc and the like during compile.
> (Whoever thought that was a good idea?)

We should also look at what drivers do depend on STANDALONE:
- some OSS drivers
- one DVB driver option (DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE)
- ACPI_CUSTOM_DSDT

The OSS drivers are more or less RIP, so let's ignore them.

Is DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE really still required?
ALL other drivers work without such an option.

ACPI_CUSTOM_DSDT seems to be the most interesting case.
It's anyway not usable for distribution kernels, and AFAIR the ACPI 
people prefer to get the kernel working with all original DSDTs
(which usually work with at least one other OS) than letting the people 
workaround the problem by using a custom DSDT.

It might therefore be possile simply getting rid of CONFIG_STANDALONE?

> 		Dave

cu
Adrian

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-08-03 20:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-03 10:14 A proposal - binary Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 11:16 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-03 12:16   ` Antonio Vargas
2006-08-03 15:17     ` Rik van Riel
2006-08-03 16:05     ` Chris Wright
2006-08-03 17:57     ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 18:29       ` Antonio Vargas
2006-08-03 18:47         ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 18:08   ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 19:03     ` Greg KH
2006-08-03 19:14       ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 19:36         ` Greg KH
2006-08-03 19:56           ` Dave Jones
2006-08-03 19:59             ` Greg KH
2006-08-03 20:25             ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2006-08-03 20:28               ` Options depending on STANDALONE Greg KH
2006-08-03 20:41                 ` Dave Jones
2006-08-03 23:40               ` [v4l-dvb-maintainer] " Trent Piepho
2006-08-05 10:51                 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-06 11:18                   ` Oliver Endriss
2006-08-13 16:36                     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-14 21:15                       ` Trent Piepho
2006-08-27 21:45                         ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-03 19:48     ` A proposal - binary linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-08-04  6:13       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-03 21:03     ` Alan Cox
2006-08-03 13:21 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-03 20:29   ` Willy Tarreau
2006-08-03 21:12     ` Alan Cox
2006-08-03 21:27       ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 15:35 ` Rik van Riel
2006-08-03 18:36   ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-05 10:45     ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-06 22:45       ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-06 22:59         ` Greg KH
2006-08-08  0:12         ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-08  0:42           ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-09  7:43             ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-03 19:06 ` Greg KH
2006-08-03 19:26   ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 20:01     ` Greg KH
2006-08-03 21:41       ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 22:33         ` Alan Cox
2006-08-03 22:30           ` Greg KH
2006-08-03 22:49             ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 22:31           ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 23:30             ` Alan Cox
2006-08-03 23:40               ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-04 10:21                 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-04 14:34                   ` Theodore Tso
2006-08-05  0:06                     ` Paul Mackerras
2006-08-04  8:56         ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-04  2:52       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-04  4:18         ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04  5:04           ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-04  5:53             ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04  7:04               ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-04  7:21                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04  8:29                   ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-04 16:57                 ` David Lang
2006-08-04 18:38                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-04 18:46                   ` Antonio Vargas
2006-08-04 19:06                     ` David Lang
2006-08-04 19:26                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-04 19:45                         ` David Lang
2006-08-04 20:11                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-04 20:31                             ` David Lang
2006-08-04 21:26                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-04 21:40                                 ` Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2006-08-04 22:00                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-04 22:45                             ` David Lang
2006-08-04 19:45                       ` Jeff Dike
2006-08-04 19:49                         ` David Lang
2006-08-04 21:46                           ` Jeff Dike
2006-08-04 22:40                             ` David Lang
2006-08-04  5:40           ` Chris Wright
2006-08-04  6:28             ` Antonio Vargas
2006-08-04  7:01               ` Chris Wright
2006-08-04  7:19                 ` Antonio Vargas
2006-08-04  7:37                   ` Chris Wright
2006-08-04 18:34       ` Chris Wright
2006-08-04 20:41         ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-04 20:52           ` Chris Wright
2006-08-04 21:26           ` Alan Cox
2006-08-05  1:14             ` James Bottomley
2006-08-05  5:37               ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-05 10:42                 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-05 11:50                 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-04 22:01           ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-04 22:39             ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-04 22:52               ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-04 22:43             ` David Lang
2006-08-05 10:47             ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-05 11:57               ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-05  1:30           ` James Bottomley
2006-08-05  4:33             ` Zachary Amsden
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-08-03 20:49 Options depending on STANDALONE Brown, Len
2006-08-03 20:51 ` Greg KH
2006-08-03 21:01   ` Dave Jones
2006-08-03 21:41     ` Greg KH
2006-08-07 17:33 ` Thomas Renninger
2006-08-07 17:56   ` Greg KH
2006-08-07 18:46   ` Eric Piel
2006-08-08 11:00   ` Thomas Renninger

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