From: "D. Hazelton" <dhazelton@enter.net>
To: Horms <horms@verge.net.au>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
vgoyal@in.ibm.com, fastboot@osdl.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Jan Kratochvil <lace@jankratochvil.net>,
Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
Linda Wang <lwang@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] ELF Relocatable x86 and x86_64 bzImages
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 10:56:38 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200608091056.39770.dhazelton@enter.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060808075849.GA11285@verge.net.au>
On Tuesday 08 August 2006 03:58, Horms wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 01:23:15AM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > Horms <horms@verge.net.au> writes:
<snip>
> > For maintenance reasons I propose we introduce CONFIG_PHYSICAL_ALIGN.
> > Which will round our load address up to the nearest aligned address
> > and run the kernel there. That is roughly what I am doing on x86_64
> > at this point.
> >
> > s/CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START/CONFIG_PHYSICAL_ALIGN/ gives me well defined
> > behavior and allows the alignment optimization without getting into
> > weird semantics.
> >
> > Before CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START we _always_ ran the arch/i386 kernel
> > where it was loaded and I assumed we always would. Since people have
> > realized better aligned kernels can run better this assumption became
> > false. Going to CONFIG_PHYSICAL_ALIGN allows us to return to the
> > simple assumption of always running the kernel where it is loaded
> > modulo a little extra alignment.
>
> That sounds reasonable to me. Though it is a little less flexible,
> do you think that could be a problem? Perhaps we could have both,
> though that would probably be quite confusing.
More than reasonable. By changing this it seems that the kernel would still
work with older bootloaders, function properly under kexec and might actually
lead to a way to potentially recover a system from a crash without a reboot
by allowing the kexec'd kernel to reset the system.
Of course the last is only a wish... Never happen because of the complexity
involved. It would require a lot of work (I'd do this, but I'm currently
arguing with the kernel over my attempts at building a functional DRM backed
console) in having to switch back to real-mode to make the proper BIOS calls
to reset the busses et. al. before switching *back* to kernel mode to run the
standard startup.
Still, by letting a kernel run where it's loaded plus some modulo to get it
properly aligned in memory solves several problems. It removes the need for
CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START and the code involved in handling that. The kexec code
that reserves memory for the new kernel image can be tweaked to always
allocate the memory *aligned*...
Anyway, I'd better get back to the DRMCon code...
DRH
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-09 14:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-01 10:58 [RFC] ELF Relocatable x86 and x86_64 bzImages Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 1/33] i386: vmlinux.lds.S Distinguish absolute symbols Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 19:06 ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 2/33] i386: define __pa_symbol Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 19:06 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-02 2:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-02 3:04 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 3/33] i386 setup.c: Reserve kernel memory starting from _text Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 4/33] i386: CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START cleanup Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 19:08 ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-08-02 2:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-02 16:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-03 14:05 ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 5/33] i386 Kconfig: Add a range definition to config PHYSICAL_START Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 6/33] Make linux/elf.h safe to be included in assembly files Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 7/33] elf: Add ELFOSABI_STANDALONE to elf.h Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 8/33] kallsyms.c: Generate relocatable symbols Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 11:36 ` Paulo Marques
2006-08-01 11:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 9/33] i386 boot: Add serial output support to the decompressor Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 19:19 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-02 2:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-02 3:07 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-02 4:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-02 5:21 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-02 6:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-02 3:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-02 3:10 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-02 5:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-02 5:44 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-02 7:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 10/33] i386: Relocatable kernel support Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 13:34 ` Mika Penttilä
2006-08-01 18:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 18:11 ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-08-01 18:16 ` Mika Penttilä
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 11/33] i386 boot: Add an ELF header to bzImage Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 22:10 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-02 2:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 12/33] x86_64: fixup indentation in e820.c Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 13/33] x86_64: Remove assumptions about the kernel start address from e820/bad_addr() Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 14/33] x86_64: Properly report in /proc/iomem the kernel address Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 15/33] x86_64: Fix kernel direct mapping size check Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 16/33] x86_64: Assembly safe page.h and pgtable.h Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 17/33] x86_64: Separate normal memory map initialization from the hotplug case Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 18/33] x86_64: Kill temp_boot_pmds Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 19:02 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-02 2:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 19:04 ` [PATCH 18/33] x86_64: Kill temp_boot_pmds II Andi Kleen
2006-08-02 2:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-02 3:07 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-02 5:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 19/33] x86_64: Cleanup the early boot page table Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 20/33] x86_64: fix early_printk to use the standard ISA mapping Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 21/33] x86_64: modify copy_bootdata to use virtual addresses Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 22/33] x86_64: Fix gdt table size in trampoline.S Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 18:59 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 23/33] x86_64: cleanup segments Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 24/33] x86_64: Add EFER to the set registers saved by save_processor_state Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 25/33] x86_64: 64bit PIC SMP trampoline Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 19:13 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 26/33] x86_64: 64bit PIC ACPI wakeup Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 19:10 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 27/33] x86_64: Modify discover_ebda to use virtual addresses Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 28/33] x86_64: Remove the identity mapping as early as possible Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 19:15 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 29/33] x86_64: __pa and __pa_symbol address space separation Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 30/33] x86_64: Remove CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 31/33] x86_64 boot: Add serial output support to the decompressor Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 32/33] x86_64: Relocatable kernel support Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 19:11 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-02 2:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-11-05 6:02 ` Yinghai Lu
2006-11-05 6:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-11-05 7:15 ` Yinghai Lu
2006-08-01 11:03 ` [PATCH 33/33] x86_64: Make bzImage a valid 64bit elf executable Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 19:26 ` [RFC] ELF Relocatable x86 and x86_64 bzImages Vivek Goyal
2006-08-01 20:13 ` Jan Kratochvil
2006-08-01 20:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-08-02 2:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-01 20:40 ` Vivek Goyal
2006-08-02 2:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-02 6:34 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-02 7:09 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-02 8:34 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-02 9:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-02 18:37 ` [Fastboot] " Don Zickus
2006-08-03 1:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-03 4:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-08-04 22:56 ` Vivek Goyal
2006-08-04 23:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-04 23:38 ` Dave Jones
2006-08-04 23:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-08-05 8:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-08 3:34 ` Horms
2006-08-08 4:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-08-08 4:57 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-08 5:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-08 6:09 ` Horms
2006-08-08 7:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-08 7:58 ` Horms
2006-08-09 14:56 ` D. Hazelton [this message]
2006-08-17 18:44 ` Vivek Goyal
2006-08-11 13:11 ` [Fastboot] " Rachita Kothiyal
2006-08-11 13:36 ` Vivek Goyal
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