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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: softirq considered harmful
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 09:37:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060814073724.GJ4231@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060812182234.605b4fb4.akpm@osdl.org>

On Sat, Aug 12 2006, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 18:09:44 -0700 (PDT)
> David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
> 
> > From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
> > Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 17:45:49 -0700
> > 
> > > Is that also adding 150 usecs to each IO operation?
> > 
> > I have no idea, Jens hasn't done enough to narrow down the true cause
> > of the latencies he is seeing.  So pinpointing it on anything specific
> > is highly premature at this stage.
> 
> Determining whether pre-conversion scsi was impacted in the same manner
> would be part of that pinpointing process.
> 
> Deferring to softirq _has_ to add latency and any latency addition in
> synchronous disk IO is very bad.  That being said, 150 usecs per request is
> so bad that I'd be suspecting that it's not affecting most people, else
> we'd have heard.

Hopefully you often end up doing > 1 request for a busy IO sub system,
otherwise the softirq stuff is pointless. But it's still pretty bad for
single requests.

> > My point was merely to encourage you to find out the facts before
> > tossing accusations around. :-)
> 
> No, your point was that slotting this change into mainline without telling
> anyone was OK because SCSI has been doing something similar.

Not similar, identical. Andrew, there was _no_ real change there!

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-14  7:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-10 11:06 softirq considered harmful Jens Axboe
2006-08-10 11:41 ` David Miller
2006-08-10 12:26   ` Jens Axboe
2006-08-12 23:28 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-13  0:43   ` David Miller
2006-08-13  0:45     ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-13  1:09       ` David Miller
2006-08-13  1:22         ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-14  7:37           ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2006-08-14  8:44             ` David Miller
2006-08-14  8:51               ` Jens Axboe
2006-08-14  7:34       ` Jens Axboe
2006-08-13 14:31   ` Jens Axboe

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