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From: Patrick McFarland <diablod3@gmail.com>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Anonymous User <anonymouslinuxuser@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: GPL Violation?
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:32:51 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200608170332.53556.diablod3@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1155797656.4494.24.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>

On Thursday 17 August 2006 02:54, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 02:42 -0400, Patrick McFarland wrote:
> > On Thursday 17 August 2006 01:48, Anonymous User wrote:
> > > I work for a company that will be developing an embedded Linux based
> > > consumer electronic device.
> > >
> > > I believe that new kernel modules will be written to support I/O
> > > peripherals and perhaps other things.  I don't know the details right
> > > now.  What I am trying to do is get an idea of what requirements there
> > > are to make the source code available under the GPL.
> >
> > I am not a lawyer, and I suggest your company speak with one before doing
> > this. (And most likely, someone from the list will correct me if I get
> > something wrong).
> >
> > However, your company only has to release any code they use, preferably
> > in the form of unmodified tarballs (pointing to project websites for
> > downloads isn't valid anymore) plus patches against said unmodified
> > tarballs if modified. If not modified, you still have to release the
> > unmodified tarballs.
> >
> > They don't have to release source code for any module you wrote from
> > scratch themselves, but said modules cannot say they are GPL (ie, they
> > have to poison the kernel).
>
> Just as a warning: This is your own legal opinion/advice, one which is
> apparently not shared with many other kernel developers, including me.
> For example see Greg's OLS keynote:
> http://www.kroah.com/log/2006/07/23/#ols_2006_keynote
> or some of Linus' emails on this topic:
> http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/*checkout*/rpms/kernel/devel/COPYING.m
>odules?rev=1.5
>
> I hope you have talked to a lawyer about your advice, but I sort of
> doubt it since your answer doesn't sound like something a lawyer will
> tell you (it sure doesn't match what the various lawyers I talked to
> told me, not at all)

Like I told him, he needs to talk to a lawyer. Also, Linus probably won't 
agree with me because I said closed source modules are possible. If Linus 
wants those to not be possible, then hes going to have to change the 
licensing agreement altogether; which, honestly, I wish he would. 

Closed source modules are lame, and against the spirit of open source, but 
that still doesn't make them against the license.

-- 
Patrick McFarland || www.AdTerrasPerAspera.com
"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids,
we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and
listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo,
Inc, 1989


  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-17  7:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-17  5:48 GPL Violation? Anonymous User
2006-08-17  6:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-17  9:38   ` Ben B
2006-08-17 12:02     ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-08-17 16:11       ` Stefan Richter
2006-08-17 19:21   ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-08-17 23:26     ` Ian Stirling
     [not found]       ` <20060817193540.dc819396.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-08-17 23:35         ` Sean
2006-08-18  0:32       ` Alan Cox
2006-08-18  7:23       ` Xavier Bestel
2006-08-18 12:23         ` Ian Stirling
2006-08-18  9:04       ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-17  6:42 ` Patrick McFarland
2006-08-17  6:54   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-17  7:32     ` Patrick McFarland [this message]
2006-08-17  8:02       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-17  9:03         ` Patrick McFarland
2006-08-18 17:56           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-17 12:39         ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2006-08-17 13:41           ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 13:31             ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2006-08-17 15:52               ` Theodore Tso
2006-08-18  2:03             ` Chase Venters
2006-08-17  8:32   ` Stefan Richter
2006-08-17  9:36     ` Patrick McFarland
2006-08-17 11:25       ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 11:48         ` Neil Brown
2006-08-17  9:37   ` David Woodhouse
2006-08-17 23:45     ` Ian Stirling
2006-08-18  8:28       ` David Woodhouse
2006-08-18 12:52         ` Ian Stirling
2006-08-18  8:53       ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-08-18  9:04         ` David Woodhouse
2006-08-18  9:15           ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-08-20 22:05     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2006-08-20 22:20       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-18  9:51   ` David Schwartz
2006-08-18 16:52     ` Alan Cox
2006-08-18 22:42       ` David Schwartz
2006-08-19 10:48         ` David Greaves
2006-08-19 16:29           ` Patrick McFarland
2006-08-19 17:28             ` David Greaves
2006-08-19 11:30         ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-19 15:44           ` Michael Buesch
2006-08-19 23:01           ` David Schwartz
2006-08-20  3:20           ` Chase Venters
2006-08-21  7:58             ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-21 11:27               ` Stefan Richter
2006-08-21 13:06               ` Alan Cox
2006-08-21 14:59               ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-08-17  9:30 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17  9:29   ` Patrick McFarland
2006-08-17 14:52 ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-17 14:58 ` Anonymous User
2006-08-17 15:52   ` Stefan Richter
2006-08-17 16:19   ` Michiel de Boer

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