From: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
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Subject: Re: [ckrm-tech] [PATCH 4/7] UBC: syscalls (user interface)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:56:24 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060818115624.fd875624.pj@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1155925065.26155.17.camel@linuxchandra>
Chandra wrote:
> In order to minimize this effect, resource controllers should be
> providing both minimum and maximum amount of resources available for a
> resource group.
No - not "should be." Rather "could also be."
The fair sharing model (such as in CKRM) that strives for maximum
utilization of resources respecting priorities and min/max limits is
(I suppose) quite useful for certain workloads and customers.
The hardwall NUMA placement model (such as in cpusets) that strives
for maximum processor and memory isolation between jobs, preferring
to leave allocated resources unused rather than trying to share them,
is also quite useful for some. Customers with 256 thread, one or
two day long run time, -very- tightly coupled huge OpenMP Fortran
jobs that need to complete within a few percent of the same time,
every runtime, demand it.
Don't presume that fair sharing -should- always be preferred to
hardwall NUMA placement.
Just not so.
Besides -- what benefit would CKRM gain from Andrew's latest
brainstorm? Doesn't CKRM already have whatever means it needs to
define and share pools of memory?
--
I won't rest till it's the best ...
Programmer, Linux Scalability
Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com> 1.925.600.0401
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-18 18:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 209+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-16 15:24 [RFC][PATCH] UBC: user resource beancounters Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 15:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/7] UBC: kconfig Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 19:57 ` [ckrm-tech] " Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-18 21:14 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-25 15:12 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-16 15:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/7] UBC: core (structures, API) Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 16:58 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 11:42 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 17:15 ` Greg KH
2006-08-17 11:45 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 12:14 ` Greg KH
2006-08-17 14:32 ` [ckrm-tech] " Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 12:36 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 18:11 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-16 18:18 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-17 11:54 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 11:53 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 16:55 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-18 11:14 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 17:51 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-18 5:31 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-18 7:35 ` [PATCH " Andrey Savochkin
2006-08-18 8:26 ` [ckrm-tech] " Matt Helsley
2006-08-18 11:52 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 15:59 ` [RFC][PATCH " Alan Cox
2006-08-17 11:09 ` [ckrm-tech] " Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-17 14:02 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 18:59 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-18 1:58 ` Matt Helsley
2006-08-18 11:36 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-19 2:38 ` Matt Helsley
2006-08-21 11:02 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-22 12:23 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-22 12:46 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-22 14:38 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-21 17:35 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-20 4:58 ` Balbir Singh
2006-08-20 5:01 ` Balbir Singh
2006-08-16 15:38 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/7] UBC: ub context and inheritance Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 16:51 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 11:09 ` [ckrm-tech] " Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-17 13:21 ` [Devel] " Pavel V. Emelianov
2006-08-18 2:42 ` Matt Helsley
2006-08-18 9:23 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-19 2:19 ` Matt Helsley
2006-08-18 20:03 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-21 10:32 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-21 20:48 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-16 15:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/7] UBC: syscalls (user interface) Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 16:52 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-16 17:17 ` Greg KH
2006-08-17 12:02 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 18:17 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-16 19:04 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-16 19:22 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 12:13 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 15:40 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-18 8:08 ` [PATCH " Andrey Savochkin
2006-08-18 14:45 ` [ckrm-tech] " Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 16:42 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-18 17:29 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 17:38 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-18 17:59 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-18 18:18 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-21 2:42 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-18 18:09 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-18 18:17 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-18 18:27 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-18 18:56 ` Paul Jackson [this message]
2006-08-18 19:16 ` Chris Friesen
2006-08-18 21:19 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-18 19:48 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-18 21:16 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-21 2:38 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-21 7:48 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-21 8:42 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-21 9:03 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-21 9:18 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-21 13:35 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-21 17:51 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-22 8:52 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-21 2:47 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-22 1:16 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-22 3:58 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-22 18:34 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-24 1:20 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-18 11:05 ` [RFC][PATCH " Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 17:08 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 12:04 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 17:05 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 11:09 ` [ckrm-tech] " Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-17 14:04 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 16:19 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-18 2:31 ` Matt Helsley
2006-08-18 11:45 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-19 2:43 ` Matt Helsley
2006-08-18 11:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-08-18 20:13 ` [ckrm-tech] " Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-16 15:40 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/7] UBC: kernel memory accounting (core) Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 16:56 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 13:47 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 18:24 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 13:27 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 14:38 ` [ckrm-tech] " Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 9:31 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 14:58 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-21 10:40 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-21 15:10 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 15:06 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-21 12:38 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 17:02 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-18 9:38 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 16:55 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-21 10:43 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-22 1:23 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-16 18:47 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-16 19:15 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-16 19:59 ` [ckrm-tech] " Dave Hansen
2006-08-17 0:24 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 14:26 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-17 15:01 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 16:04 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-18 10:54 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 16:37 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-17 15:19 ` Rik van Riel
2006-08-17 17:28 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 18:43 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-17 17:49 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 8:29 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 17:06 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 17:16 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 17:23 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-17 17:36 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 17:53 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 8:54 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 14:52 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 17:38 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-21 11:29 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-22 1:48 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-22 7:43 ` Pavel V. Emelianov
2006-08-18 8:51 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 8:52 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 14:59 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-18 19:32 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 20:52 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-21 9:44 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 16:42 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 16:31 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 0:22 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 16:36 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-18 8:44 ` [ckrm-tech] " Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 13:35 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 17:13 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-18 8:49 ` [ckrm-tech] " Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 13:31 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 14:36 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 8:12 ` [ckrm-tech] " Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 14:43 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-21 8:57 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 20:26 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-21 10:51 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-21 20:55 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-16 15:42 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/7] UBC: kernel memory acconting (mark objects) Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 16:57 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-16 15:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/7] UBC: proc interface Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 17:13 ` Greg KH
2006-08-17 13:43 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 15:40 ` Greg KH
2006-08-17 16:12 ` [Devel] " Kir Kolyshkin
2006-08-16 18:53 ` [RFC][PATCH] UBC: user resource beancounters Rohit Seth
2006-08-16 19:26 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 0:15 ` [ckrm-tech] " Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-17 11:02 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-17 13:55 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 19:55 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-18 10:36 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 18:53 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-18 22:55 ` Matt Helsley
2006-08-21 10:55 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-21 21:04 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-18 19:39 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-21 13:24 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-21 21:45 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-21 22:20 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-21 22:44 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-22 1:45 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-22 10:02 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-22 9:57 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-22 11:15 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-24 1:31 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-22 18:55 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-24 1:44 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-24 2:04 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-24 11:10 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-24 23:48 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-24 23:55 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-08-25 18:21 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-25 20:46 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-25 21:37 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-25 22:51 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-25 22:59 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-24 17:27 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-24 23:52 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-25 11:12 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-25 18:47 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-25 20:52 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-25 22:23 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-25 23:12 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-25 23:00 ` Chandra Seetharaman
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