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From: Chase Venters <chase.venters@clientec.com>
To: Helge Hafting <helgehaf@aitel.hist.no>
Cc: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	"Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: GPL Violation?
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:20:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200608192220.42456.chase.venters@clientec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060819113052.GC3190@aitel.hist.no>

On Saturday 19 August 2006 06:30, Helge Hafting wrote:
> Now, if someone actually distributes a closed-source module that
> circumvents EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL, or relies on an accompagnying
> open source patch that removes the mechanism, this happens:
>
> 1. By doing this, they clearly showed that their module is outside the
>    gray area of "allowed binary-only modules". They definitively
>    made a "derived work" and distributed it.
>
> 2. Anybody who received this module may now invoke the GPL
>    (and the force of law, if necessary) to extract the
>    module source code from the maker.  And then this source
>    can be freely redistributed to all interested.

Actually, you can't just force the vendor to open up all of their source code. 
The GPL isn't a contract - it's a license. If a vendor makes a derived work 
from the Linux kernel and does not GPL-license said derived work, they are 
indeed violating copyright as the license the GPL provides no longer supports 
their ability to redistribute.

However, the court decides what happens to the vendor. The court might force 
the vendor to open up their code, but to my knowledge this would be breaking 
brand new ground. I think it is more likely that the plaintiff could be 
awarded monetary damages and the defendant enjoined from further 
redistribution.

The charge is not "violating the GPL" (since the GPL is not a contract) -- 
it's distributing copyrighted materials without a license. See Eben Moglen's 
discussion on this subject for more details.

Thanks,
Chase

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-08-20  3:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-17  5:48 GPL Violation? Anonymous User
2006-08-17  6:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-17  9:38   ` Ben B
2006-08-17 12:02     ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-08-17 16:11       ` Stefan Richter
2006-08-17 19:21   ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-08-17 23:26     ` Ian Stirling
     [not found]       ` <20060817193540.dc819396.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-08-17 23:35         ` Sean
2006-08-18  0:32       ` Alan Cox
2006-08-18  7:23       ` Xavier Bestel
2006-08-18 12:23         ` Ian Stirling
2006-08-18  9:04       ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-17  6:42 ` Patrick McFarland
2006-08-17  6:54   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-17  7:32     ` Patrick McFarland
2006-08-17  8:02       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-17  9:03         ` Patrick McFarland
2006-08-18 17:56           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-17 12:39         ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2006-08-17 13:41           ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 13:31             ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2006-08-17 15:52               ` Theodore Tso
2006-08-18  2:03             ` Chase Venters
2006-08-17  8:32   ` Stefan Richter
2006-08-17  9:36     ` Patrick McFarland
2006-08-17 11:25       ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 11:48         ` Neil Brown
2006-08-17  9:37   ` David Woodhouse
2006-08-17 23:45     ` Ian Stirling
2006-08-18  8:28       ` David Woodhouse
2006-08-18 12:52         ` Ian Stirling
2006-08-18  8:53       ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-08-18  9:04         ` David Woodhouse
2006-08-18  9:15           ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-08-20 22:05     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2006-08-20 22:20       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-18  9:51   ` David Schwartz
2006-08-18 16:52     ` Alan Cox
2006-08-18 22:42       ` David Schwartz
2006-08-19 10:48         ` David Greaves
2006-08-19 16:29           ` Patrick McFarland
2006-08-19 17:28             ` David Greaves
2006-08-19 11:30         ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-19 15:44           ` Michael Buesch
2006-08-19 23:01           ` David Schwartz
2006-08-20  3:20           ` Chase Venters [this message]
2006-08-21  7:58             ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-21 11:27               ` Stefan Richter
2006-08-21 13:06               ` Alan Cox
2006-08-21 14:59               ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-08-17  9:30 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17  9:29   ` Patrick McFarland
2006-08-17 14:52 ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-17 14:58 ` Anonymous User
2006-08-17 15:52   ` Stefan Richter
2006-08-17 16:19   ` Michiel de Boer

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