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From: Nathan Lynch <ntl@pobox.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>, Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
	simon.derr@bull.net, nathanl@austin.ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: cpusets not cpu hotplug aware
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 00:04:01 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060822050401.GB11309@localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060821215120.244f1f6f.akpm@osdl.org>

Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 14:01:48 -0700
> Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com> wrote:
> > Anton wrote:
> > > If cpuset_cpus_allowed doesnt return the current online mask and we want
> > > to schedule on a cpu that has been added since boot it looks like we
> > > will fail.
> > 
> > In general, on systems actually using cpusets, that -is- what should
> > happen.  Just because a cpu was brought online doesn't mean it was
> > intended to be allowed in any given tasks current cpuset.
> > 
> > Granted, I would guess users of systems not using cpusets (but
> > still have cpusets configured in their kernel, as is common in some
> > distro kernels), would expect the behaviour you expected - bringing
> > a cpu (or memory node) on or offline would make it available (or
> > not) for something like a sched_setaffinity (or mbind/set_mempolicy)
> > immediately, without having to invoke some magic cpuset voodoo.
> > 
> > Offhand, this sounds to me like a choice of two modes of operation.
> > 
> >     If you aren't actually using cpusets (so every task is in the
> >     original top_cpuset) then you'd expect that cpuset to "get out
> >     of the way", meaning top_cpuset (the only cpuset, in this case)
> >     tracked whatever cpus and nodes were online at the moment.
> > 
> >     If instead you start messing with cpusets (creating more than one
> >     of them and moving tasks between them) then you'd expect cpusets
> >     to be enforced, without automatically adding newly added cpus or
> >     memory nodes to existing cpusets.  Only the user knows which
> >     cpusets should get the added cpus or memory nodes in this case.
> > 
> > I don't jump for joy over yet another modal state flag.  But I don't see
> > a better alternative -- do you?
> > 
> 
> If the kernel provider (ie: distro) has enabled cpusets then it would be
> appropriate that they also provide a hotplug script which detects whether their
> user is actually using cpusets and if not, to take some sensible default action. 
> ie: add the newly-added CPU to the system's single cpuset, no?

I think it would be more sensible for the default (i.e. user hasn't
explicitly configured any cpusets) behavior on a CONFIG_CPUSETS=y
kernel to match the behavior with a CONFIG_CPUSETS=n kernel.  Right
now we don't have that.  Binding a task to a newly added cpu just
fails if CONFIG_CPUSETS=y, but it works if CONFIG_CPUSETS=n.


  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-22  5:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-21 13:27 cpusets not cpu hotplug aware Anton Blanchard
2006-08-21 13:54 ` Simon Derr
2006-08-21 17:43 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-21 19:21   ` Anton Blanchard
2006-08-21 20:42     ` [PATCH] cpuset code prevents binding tasks to new cpus Nathan Lynch
2006-08-21 23:04       ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-21 23:27         ` Nathan Lynch
2006-08-22  4:42           ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-22  5:07             ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-21 21:01     ` cpusets not cpu hotplug aware Paul Jackson
2006-08-22  4:51       ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-22  5:04         ` Nathan Lynch [this message]
2006-08-22  5:11           ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-22  5:14           ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-23 22:11             ` Nathan Lynch
2006-08-23 22:39               ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-23 23:39                 ` Nathan Lynch
2006-08-24  2:19                   ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-23 23:49               ` Nathan Lynch
2006-08-24  0:12                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-24  0:48                   ` [PATCH] cpuset code prevents binding tasks to new cpus Nathan Lynch
2006-08-24  2:54                   ` cpusets not cpu hotplug aware Paul Jackson
2006-08-22  5:06         ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-22  5:14           ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-22  5:21             ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-23 14:58             ` Anton Blanchard
2006-08-23 18:59               ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-23 19:08               ` Paul Jackson

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