From: Nathan Lynch <ntl@pobox.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>, Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
simon.derr@bull.net, nathanl@austin.ibm.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: cpusets not cpu hotplug aware
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 00:04:01 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060822050401.GB11309@localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060821215120.244f1f6f.akpm@osdl.org>
Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 14:01:48 -0700
> Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com> wrote:
> > Anton wrote:
> > > If cpuset_cpus_allowed doesnt return the current online mask and we want
> > > to schedule on a cpu that has been added since boot it looks like we
> > > will fail.
> >
> > In general, on systems actually using cpusets, that -is- what should
> > happen. Just because a cpu was brought online doesn't mean it was
> > intended to be allowed in any given tasks current cpuset.
> >
> > Granted, I would guess users of systems not using cpusets (but
> > still have cpusets configured in their kernel, as is common in some
> > distro kernels), would expect the behaviour you expected - bringing
> > a cpu (or memory node) on or offline would make it available (or
> > not) for something like a sched_setaffinity (or mbind/set_mempolicy)
> > immediately, without having to invoke some magic cpuset voodoo.
> >
> > Offhand, this sounds to me like a choice of two modes of operation.
> >
> > If you aren't actually using cpusets (so every task is in the
> > original top_cpuset) then you'd expect that cpuset to "get out
> > of the way", meaning top_cpuset (the only cpuset, in this case)
> > tracked whatever cpus and nodes were online at the moment.
> >
> > If instead you start messing with cpusets (creating more than one
> > of them and moving tasks between them) then you'd expect cpusets
> > to be enforced, without automatically adding newly added cpus or
> > memory nodes to existing cpusets. Only the user knows which
> > cpusets should get the added cpus or memory nodes in this case.
> >
> > I don't jump for joy over yet another modal state flag. But I don't see
> > a better alternative -- do you?
> >
>
> If the kernel provider (ie: distro) has enabled cpusets then it would be
> appropriate that they also provide a hotplug script which detects whether their
> user is actually using cpusets and if not, to take some sensible default action.
> ie: add the newly-added CPU to the system's single cpuset, no?
I think it would be more sensible for the default (i.e. user hasn't
explicitly configured any cpusets) behavior on a CONFIG_CPUSETS=y
kernel to match the behavior with a CONFIG_CPUSETS=n kernel. Right
now we don't have that. Binding a task to a newly added cpu just
fails if CONFIG_CPUSETS=y, but it works if CONFIG_CPUSETS=n.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-22 5:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-21 13:27 cpusets not cpu hotplug aware Anton Blanchard
2006-08-21 13:54 ` Simon Derr
2006-08-21 17:43 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-21 19:21 ` Anton Blanchard
2006-08-21 20:42 ` [PATCH] cpuset code prevents binding tasks to new cpus Nathan Lynch
2006-08-21 23:04 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-21 23:27 ` Nathan Lynch
2006-08-22 4:42 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-22 5:07 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-21 21:01 ` cpusets not cpu hotplug aware Paul Jackson
2006-08-22 4:51 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-22 5:04 ` Nathan Lynch [this message]
2006-08-22 5:11 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-22 5:14 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-23 22:11 ` Nathan Lynch
2006-08-23 22:39 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-23 23:39 ` Nathan Lynch
2006-08-24 2:19 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-23 23:49 ` Nathan Lynch
2006-08-24 0:12 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-24 0:48 ` [PATCH] cpuset code prevents binding tasks to new cpus Nathan Lynch
2006-08-24 2:54 ` cpusets not cpu hotplug aware Paul Jackson
2006-08-22 5:06 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-22 5:14 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-22 5:21 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-23 14:58 ` Anton Blanchard
2006-08-23 18:59 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-23 19:08 ` Paul Jackson
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