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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Cc: "Dong Feng" <middle.fengdong@gmail.com>,
	"Christoph Lameter" <clameter@sgi.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Why Semaphore Hardware-Dependent?
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:23:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200608280923.24677.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17650.13915.413019.784343@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>


> 
> I believe the reason for not doing something like this on x86 was the
> fact that we still support i386 processors, which don't have the
> cmpxchg instruction.  

i386 emulates cmpxchg these days (other than that most likely 99.9+% of all
386s are already long beyond their MTBF, so they shouldn't be a major concern)

> That's fair enough, but I would be opposed to 
> making semaphores bigger 

If the code was out of lined bigger wouldn't make much difference
And if it worked for spinlocks I don't see why it shouldn't for semaphores.

> and slower on PowerPC because of that. 

The question is if it really makes much difference. When semaphores
are congested in my experience the major overhead is in the scheduler
anyways.

That would leave the fast path, but does it help that much there
to have a more complicated implementation?
-Andi


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-08-28  7:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-27 19:22 Why Semaphore Hardware-Dependent? Dong Feng
2006-08-27 20:52 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-27 21:05   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-08-27 21:39     ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-27 22:14       ` Christoph Lameter
2006-08-28  0:18 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-08-28  5:14   ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-08-28  5:21     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-08-28  5:56     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-28 12:35     ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-08-28  7:23   ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2006-08-29  1:00     ` Paul Mackerras
2006-08-28  7:30 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-29  1:18   ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-29  6:07     ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-13 17:54       ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-29 10:05     ` David Howells
2006-08-29 10:56       ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-29 17:40         ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-29 19:10         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-08-29 15:56       ` Christoph Lameter
2006-08-29 16:20         ` Ralf Baechle
2006-08-29 16:25           ` David Howells
2006-08-29 16:28             ` Christoph Lameter
2006-08-29 16:57               ` David Howells
2006-08-29 16:53             ` Ralf Baechle
2006-08-29 16:58               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-08-29 17:22         ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-29 17:36           ` Christoph Lameter
2006-08-29 18:18             ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-29 18:30               ` David Howells
2006-08-29 18:33                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-29 18:56                   ` David Howells
2006-08-29 18:41               ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-13 18:04       ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-13 18:07         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-13 18:13           ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-13 18:16             ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-13 18:50         ` David Howells
2006-09-13 19:25           ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-14 11:41             ` David Howells
2006-09-14 15:27               ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-14 15:38                 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-15  8:59                 ` David Howells

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