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From: Frank v Waveren <fvw@var.cx>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] prevent timespec/timeval to ktime_t overflow
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:08:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060830220836.GA21987@var.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1156975503.29250.220.camel@localhost.localdomain>

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On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 12:05:02AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > With this patch, we sleep shorter than specified, and don't signal
> > this in any way. Returning EINVAL for anything except negative tv_sec
> > or invalid tv_nsec breaks the spec too, but I prefer errors to
> > silently sleeping too short.
> 
> I really don't care whether we sleep 100 or 5000 years in the case of
> "sleep MAX_LONG"
Don't sell your patch short, it still manages nearly 300 years..

> > I'll grant this is more of an aesthetic point than something that'll
> > cause real-world problems (300 years is a long time for any sleep),
> > but if things break I like them to do so as loudly as possible, as a
> > general rule.
> 
> One thing you ignore is that your patch does not cure the introduced
> user space breakage, it just replaces the overflow caused very short
> sleep by a return -EINVAL, which is breaking existing userspace in a
> different way. We have to preserve user space interfaces even when they
> violate your aesthetic well-being.

The userspace interface gets broken either way. The error might
actually serve as a decent portability wake up call, solaris 64 bit
also silently overflows in nanosleep, and since I've only had the
opportunity to check on solaris and linux, I wouldn't be surprised if
other OSes had the same problem.

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-30 22:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-30  8:44 [PATCH] prevent timespec/timeval to ktime_t overflow Thomas Gleixner
2006-08-30 21:44 ` Frank v Waveren
2006-08-30 22:05   ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-08-30 22:08     ` Frank v Waveren [this message]
2006-08-30 22:22       ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-08-30 22:26         ` Frank v Waveren
2006-09-01  3:46 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-01  8:56   ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-01  9:04     ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-01  9:30       ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-02  3:13         ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-02  3:32           ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-02  8:08           ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-02 18:41           ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-02 19:28             ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-02 19:43               ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-02 19:32             ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-02 11:04   ` Frank v Waveren
2006-09-02 18:44     ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-03  3:13       ` Frank v Waveren

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