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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] re-add -ffreestanding
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 00:37:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060906223748.GC12157@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060830183905.GB31594@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>

On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 07:39:05PM +0100, Russell King wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 08:13:58PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > On Wednesday 30 August 2006 19:57, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > > I got the following compile error with gcc 4.1.1 when trying to compile 
> > > kernel 2.6.18-rc4-mm2 for m68k:
> > 
> > If anything then -ffreestanding needs to be added to arch/m68k/Makefile
> > (assuming it doesn't compile at all right now)
> 
> Looking at the effect of -ffreestanding on ARM, it appears that on one
> hand, the overall image size is reduced by 0.016% but we end up with worse
> code - eg, strlen() of the same string in the same function evaluated
> multiple times vs once without -ffreestanding.
> 
> The difference probably comes down to the lack of __attribute__((pure))
> on our string functions in linux/string.h.
> 
> If we are going to go for -ffreestanding, we need to fix linux/string.h
> in that respect _first_.

We are talking about reverting the patch that removed -ffreestanding, 
and that broke at least two architectures although it wrongly claimed 
it would have been a safe patch.

I agree that there is room for improvement at our string functions, but 
small optimizations like the ones you are mentioning are not much 
when talking about reverting a patch that is both theoretically wrong 
and has proven practically to cause problems.

> Russell King

cu
Adrian

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed


  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-06 22:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-30 17:57 [2.6 patch] re-add -ffreestanding Adrian Bunk
2006-08-30 18:13 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-30 18:39   ` Russell King
2006-09-06 22:37     ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2006-09-06 23:38       ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-06 23:50         ` Adrian Bunk
2006-09-07  0:05           ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-07  0:37             ` Adrian Bunk
2006-09-07  0:47               ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-07  1:02                 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-09-07  1:23                   ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-07  2:23                     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-09-07 10:25                       ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-07  6:30       ` Russell King
2006-09-07 10:27         ` Adrian Bunk
2006-09-07 11:40           ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-07 11:43           ` Russell King
2006-09-07 14:03             ` Kyle Moffett
2006-09-07 14:25               ` Russell King
2006-09-07 14:29               ` Roman Zippel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-08-21 21:21 Adrian Bunk
2006-08-21 21:24 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-21 21:46   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-21 22:09     ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-21 22:24       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-21 22:27         ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-21 22:58           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-21 23:13             ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-22  3:37               ` Kyle Moffett
2006-08-22 10:37                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-22 11:18                   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-21 23:33           ` Roman Zippel

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