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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] re-add -ffreestanding
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 02:37:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060907003758.GD25473@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609070202040.6761@scrub.home>

On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 02:05:59AM +0200, Roman Zippel wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> 
> > it's correct, since with -ffreestanding gcc no longer has the right to 
> > assume it had a full libc available.
> 
> BS, even without it gcc can't make such assumption.
> There is not a single optimization, which would be invalid in a kernel 
> environment and would be "fixed" by this option, so please stop this 
> nonsense.

You are wrong.

Section 5.1.2.2.2 of ISO/IEC 9899:1999 says:
In a hosted environment, a program may use all functions, macros, type 
definitions, and objects described in the library clause (clause 7).

Since a hosted environment means gcc+libc, it's therefore clear that gcc 
can assume the presence of a full libc if gcc isn't told that it's used 
as a freestanding environment.

> bye, Roman

cu
Adrian

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed


  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-07  0:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-30 17:57 [2.6 patch] re-add -ffreestanding Adrian Bunk
2006-08-30 18:13 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-30 18:39   ` Russell King
2006-09-06 22:37     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-09-06 23:38       ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-06 23:50         ` Adrian Bunk
2006-09-07  0:05           ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-07  0:37             ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2006-09-07  0:47               ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-07  1:02                 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-09-07  1:23                   ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-07  2:23                     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-09-07 10:25                       ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-07  6:30       ` Russell King
2006-09-07 10:27         ` Adrian Bunk
2006-09-07 11:40           ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-07 11:43           ` Russell King
2006-09-07 14:03             ` Kyle Moffett
2006-09-07 14:25               ` Russell King
2006-09-07 14:29               ` Roman Zippel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-08-21 21:21 Adrian Bunk
2006-08-21 21:24 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-21 21:46   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-21 22:09     ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-21 22:24       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-21 22:27         ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-21 22:58           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-21 23:13             ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-22  3:37               ` Kyle Moffett
2006-08-22 10:37                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-22 11:18                   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-21 23:33           ` Roman Zippel

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