From: Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>
To: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org,
segher@kernel.crashing.org, davem@davemloft.net,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Opinion on ordering of writel vs. stores to RAM
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 19:35:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200609101935.09993.mb@bu3sch.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200609101019.11608.jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>
On Sunday 10 September 2006 19:19, Jesse Barnes wrote:
> On Saturday, September 09, 2006 8:09 am, Alan Cox wrote:
> > Ar Sad, 2006-09-09 am 17:23 +1000, ysgrifennodd Benjamin
> Herrenschmidt:
> > > The problem is that very few people have any clear idea of what
> > > mmiowb is :) In fact, what you described is not the definition of
> > > mmiowb according to Jesse
> >
> > Some of us talked a little about this at Linux Kongress and one
> > suggestion so people did understand it was
> >
> > spin_lock_io();
> > spin_unlock_io();
> >
> > so that it can be expressed not as a weird barrier op but as part of
> > the locking.
>
> That's what IRIX had. It would let us get rid of mmiowb and avoid doing
> a full sync in writeX, so may be the best option.
Last time I suggested that, people did not want it.
Probably about 9 months ago. Don't remember exactly.
We came to the decision that if a driver depends on some weak
ordering, it should either directly use mmiowb() or have its
own locking wrapper which wraps spin_unlock() and mmiowb().
There is one little problem in practice with something
like spin_unlock_io().
spin_lock_io(&lock);
foovalue = new_foovalue;
if (device_is_fooing)
writel(foovalue, REGISTER);
spin_unlock_io(&lock);
That would be an unneccessary sync in case device is not fooing.
In contrast to the explicit version:
spin_lock(&lock);
foovalue = new_foovalue;
if (device_is_fooing) {
writel(foovalue, REGISTER);
mmiowb();
}
spin_unlock(&lock);
--
Greetings Michael.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-09-10 17:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-09 2:03 Opinion on ordering of writel vs. stores to RAM Paul Mackerras
2006-09-09 2:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-09 3:02 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-09-09 3:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-09 7:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-09 9:34 ` David Miller
2006-09-09 9:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-09 10:08 ` David Miller
2006-09-10 17:18 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-09-10 19:35 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-10 21:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-10 22:23 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-10 22:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11 13:19 ` Jes Sorensen
2006-09-10 23:35 ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-09-11 0:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11 0:34 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-09-11 1:04 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11 1:13 ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-09-11 1:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11 9:02 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-11 9:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11 0:25 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-09-11 0:54 ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-09-11 1:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11 1:48 ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-09-11 3:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11 18:12 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-09-11 1:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11 18:08 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-09-11 21:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-10 20:01 ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-09-11 13:21 ` David Miller
2006-09-11 14:17 ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-09-12 0:32 ` David Miller
2006-09-12 0:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-12 16:47 ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-09-12 0:54 ` Roland Dreier
2006-09-09 11:16 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-09-09 7:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-09 9:38 ` David Miller
2006-09-09 15:09 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-10 17:19 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-09-10 17:35 ` Michael Buesch [this message]
2006-09-10 17:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-10 18:02 ` Michael Buesch
2006-09-09 15:08 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-09 18:34 ` Auke Kok
2006-09-09 19:10 ` Patrick McFarland
2006-09-09 15:06 ` Alan Cox
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-09-11 5:03 Michael Chan
2006-09-11 5:21 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-12 4:30 Albert Cahalan
2006-09-12 5:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-12 6:04 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-09-12 6:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-12 7:09 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-09-12 7:17 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-12 7:21 ` Albert Cahalan
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