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From: David Madore <david.madore@ens.fr>
To: Joshua Brindle <method@gentoo.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel mailing-list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LSM mailing-list <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] security: capabilities patch (version 0.4.4), part 3/4: introduce new capabilities
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:03:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060910200337.GA24123@clipper.ens.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <450451DB.5040104@gentoo.org>

On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 01:56:43PM -0400, Joshua Brindle wrote:
> To expand on this a little, some of the capabilities you are looking to 
> add are of very little if any use without being able to specify objects. 
> For example, CAP_REG_OPEN is whether the process can open any file 
> instead of specific ones. How many applications open no files whatsoever 
> in practice? Even if there are some as soon as they change and need to 
> open a file they'll need this capability and will be able to open any. 
> CAP_REG_WRITE has the same problem. For a description of why 
> CAP_REG_EXEC is meaningless see the digsig thread on the LSM list from 
> earlier this year.

CAP_REG_OPEN and CAP_REG_EXEC might be useful only for demonstration
purposes, but I've *often* wished I could run a program without
CAP_REG_WRITE because I wasn't root and I wanted to make *sure* it
didn't write any file anywhere.  Instead I had to run them from a
user-mode-linux, which is horribly messy and doesn't work well (and,
at best, with a noticeable slowdown).

Again, I ask: is SElinux useable if you aren't root?  (Assuming it's
activated, of course: I mean, can you create new policies to make
certain programs run with restricted privileges?)  I thought it
wasn't, but maybe I'm wrong.

-- 
     David A. Madore
    (david.madore@ens.fr,
     http://www.madore.org/~david/ )

  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-10 20:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-10 13:37 [PATCH 1/4] security: capabilities patch (version 0.4.4), part 1/4: enlarge capability sets David Madore
2006-09-10 13:41 ` [PATCH 2/4] security: capabilities patch (version 0.4.4), part 2/4: change inheritance semantics David Madore
2006-09-10 13:42 ` [PATCH 3/4] security: capabilities patch (version 0.4.4), part 3/4: introduce new capabilities David Madore
2006-09-10 16:23   ` Alan Cox
2006-09-10 16:09     ` David Madore
2006-09-11  8:06       ` James Morris
2006-09-11 12:03         ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-11 16:22           ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-17 18:06           ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-10 17:56     ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-10 20:03       ` David Madore [this message]
2006-09-11  6:10         ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-11  6:51           ` David Madore
2006-09-11 13:42         ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-17 18:14       ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-17 20:39         ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-17 21:16           ` David Madore
2006-09-18 11:46             ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-18 11:58               ` David Madore
2006-09-18 12:04               ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-18 12:12                 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-18 16:02               ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-19  0:25                 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-19  3:46                   ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-19  4:09                     ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-19 15:54                       ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-19 18:27                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-10 13:44 ` David Madore
2006-09-10 13:46 ` [PATCH 4/4] security: capabilities patch (version 0.4.4), part 4/4: add filesystem support David Madore

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