From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Mark Gross <mgross@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Eugeny S. Mints" <eugeny.mints@gmail.com>,
Matthew Locke <matt@nomadgs.com>,
Amit Kucheria <amit.kucheria@nokia.com>,
pm list <linux-pm@lists.osdl.org>,
Preece Scott-PREECE <scott.preece@motorola.com>,
Igor Stoppa <igor.stoppa@nokia.com>
Subject: Re: cpufreq terminally broken [was Re: community PM requirements/issues and PowerOP]
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 20:37:00 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060912033700.GD27397@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060912001701.GC14234@linux.intel.com>
On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 05:17:01PM -0700, Mark Gross wrote:
>
> cpufreq is broken at the cpufreq_driver interface for embedded
> applications needing control over more than one control variable at a
> time.
>
> That interface only supports setting target frequencies, and expanding it
> to set target frequencies and voltages is not possible without something
> like PowerOP. Adding the types of parameters to cpufreq would likely
> make cpufreq a mess. I think we would be better off with something that
> coexists with cpufreq, like the powerop patch from Eugeny.
>
> God help you if you try to use cpufreq on a complex non-PC platform with
> multiple power and clock domains that need to be tweaked to squeeze out
> competitive battery life.
>
> Because of the existing user base of cpufreq removing cpufreq will never
> happen. No one supporting the PowerOP patch has never recommended
> such a thing. However; holding back innovation because of an existing
> solution that doesn't support a large class of users seems dumb.
But you can't break the existing stuff, and it seems that some of these
proposals are doing just that. :(
thanks,
greg k-h
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2006-09-11 22:56 ` cpufreq terminally broken [was Re: community PM requirements/issues and PowerOP] Pavel Machek
2006-09-12 0:17 ` Mark Gross
2006-09-12 3:37 ` Greg KH [this message]
2006-09-13 23:50 ` [linux-pm] " David Singleton
2006-09-14 5:30 ` Vitaly Wool
2006-09-14 5:55 ` OpPoint summary Greg KH
2006-09-14 7:35 ` [linux-pm] " Vitaly Wool
2006-09-14 16:55 ` David Singleton
2006-09-14 17:03 ` David Singleton
2006-09-14 17:07 ` David Singleton
2006-09-14 17:25 ` Auke Kok
2006-09-14 18:15 ` [linux-pm] " Vitaly Wool
2006-09-14 18:17 ` David Singleton
2006-09-17 17:48 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-18 14:33 ` [linux-pm] " Richard A. Griffiths
2006-09-18 16:13 ` Matthew Locke
2006-09-14 17:11 ` David Singleton
2006-09-17 5:07 ` David Singleton
2006-09-17 12:56 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-17 12:58 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-17 22:43 ` [linux-pm] " Matthew Locke
2006-09-12 8:33 ` cpufreq terminally broken [was Re: community PM requirements/issues and PowerOP] Pavel Machek
2006-09-12 9:10 ` [linux-pm] " Vitaly Wool
2006-09-12 9:16 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-12 9:23 ` Vitaly Wool
2006-09-14 15:04 ` Mark Gross
2006-09-14 14:58 ` Mark Gross
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