From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Joshua Brindle <method@gentoo.org>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
David Madore <david.madore@ens.fr>,
Linux Kernel mailing-list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
LSM mailing-list <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] security: capabilities patch (version 0.4.4), part 3/4: introduce new capabilities
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:14:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060917181422.GC2225@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <450451DB.5040104@gentoo.org>
Hi!
> >>Introduce six new "regular" (=on-by-default) capabilities:
> >>
> >> * CAP_REG_FORK, CAP_REG_OPEN, CAP_REG_EXEC allow access to the
> >> fork(), open() and exec() syscalls,
> >>
> >
> >CAP_REG_EXEC seems meaningless, I can do the same with mmap by hand for
> >most types of binary execution except setuid (which is separate it
> >seems)
> >
> >Given the capability model is accepted as inferior to things like
> >SELinux policies why do we actually want to fix this anyway. It's
> >unfortunate we can't discard the existing capabilities model (which has
> >flaws) as well really.
> To expand on this a little, some of the capabilities you are looking to
> add are of very little if any use without being able to specify objects.
> For example, CAP_REG_OPEN is whether the process can open any file
> instead of specific ones. How many applications open no files whatsoever
> in practice?
Filters, for example. gzip -9 - and such stuff does not need to open
any files. These should be easy to lock down, and still very useful.
More applications could be made lock-down-aware, and for example ask
master daemon to open files for them over a (already opened) socket.
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-09-17 19:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-10 13:37 [PATCH 1/4] security: capabilities patch (version 0.4.4), part 1/4: enlarge capability sets David Madore
2006-09-10 13:41 ` [PATCH 2/4] security: capabilities patch (version 0.4.4), part 2/4: change inheritance semantics David Madore
2006-09-10 13:42 ` [PATCH 3/4] security: capabilities patch (version 0.4.4), part 3/4: introduce new capabilities David Madore
2006-09-10 16:23 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-10 16:09 ` David Madore
2006-09-11 8:06 ` James Morris
2006-09-11 12:03 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-11 16:22 ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-17 18:06 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-10 17:56 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-10 20:03 ` David Madore
2006-09-11 6:10 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-11 6:51 ` David Madore
2006-09-11 13:42 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-17 18:14 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2006-09-17 20:39 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-17 21:16 ` David Madore
2006-09-18 11:46 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-18 11:58 ` David Madore
2006-09-18 12:04 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-18 12:12 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-18 16:02 ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-19 0:25 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-19 3:46 ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-19 4:09 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-19 15:54 ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-19 18:27 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-10 13:44 ` David Madore
2006-09-10 13:46 ` [PATCH 4/4] security: capabilities patch (version 0.4.4), part 4/4: add filesystem support David Madore
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