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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Joshua Brindle <method@gentoo.org>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	David Madore <david.madore@ens.fr>,
	Linux Kernel mailing-list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LSM mailing-list <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] security: capabilities patch (version 0.4.4), part 3/4: introduce new capabilities
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:14:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060917181422.GC2225@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <450451DB.5040104@gentoo.org>

Hi!

> >>Introduce six new "regular" (=on-by-default) capabilities:
> >>
> >> * CAP_REG_FORK, CAP_REG_OPEN, CAP_REG_EXEC allow access to the
> >>   fork(), open() and exec() syscalls,
> >>    
> >
> >CAP_REG_EXEC seems meaningless, I can do the same with mmap by hand for
> >most types of binary execution except setuid (which is separate it
> >seems)
> >
> >Given the capability model is accepted as inferior to things like
> >SELinux policies why do we actually want to fix this anyway. It's
> >unfortunate we can't discard the existing capabilities model (which has
> >flaws) as well really.

> To expand on this a little, some of the capabilities you are looking to 
> add are of very little if any use without being able to specify objects. 
> For example, CAP_REG_OPEN is whether the process can open any file 
> instead of specific ones. How many applications open no files whatsoever 
> in practice? 

Filters, for example. gzip -9 - and such stuff does not need to open
any files. These should be easy to lock down, and still very useful.

More applications could be made lock-down-aware, and for example ask
master daemon to open files for them over a (already opened) socket.

								Pavel

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-09-17 19:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-10 13:37 [PATCH 1/4] security: capabilities patch (version 0.4.4), part 1/4: enlarge capability sets David Madore
2006-09-10 13:41 ` [PATCH 2/4] security: capabilities patch (version 0.4.4), part 2/4: change inheritance semantics David Madore
2006-09-10 13:42 ` [PATCH 3/4] security: capabilities patch (version 0.4.4), part 3/4: introduce new capabilities David Madore
2006-09-10 16:23   ` Alan Cox
2006-09-10 16:09     ` David Madore
2006-09-11  8:06       ` James Morris
2006-09-11 12:03         ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-11 16:22           ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-17 18:06           ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-10 17:56     ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-10 20:03       ` David Madore
2006-09-11  6:10         ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-11  6:51           ` David Madore
2006-09-11 13:42         ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-17 18:14       ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2006-09-17 20:39         ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-17 21:16           ` David Madore
2006-09-18 11:46             ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-18 11:58               ` David Madore
2006-09-18 12:04               ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-18 12:12                 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-18 16:02               ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-19  0:25                 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-19  3:46                   ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-19  4:09                     ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-19 15:54                       ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-19 18:27                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-10 13:44 ` David Madore
2006-09-10 13:46 ` [PATCH 4/4] security: capabilities patch (version 0.4.4), part 4/4: add filesystem support David Madore

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