From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Karim Yaghmour <karim@opersys.com>,
Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Jes Sorensen <jes@sgi.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>,
Tom Zanussi <zanussi@us.ibm.com>,
Richard J Moore <richardj_moore@uk.ibm.com>,
"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>,
Michel Dagenais <michel.dagenais@polymtl.ca>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
William Cohen <wcohen@redhat.com>,
"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@mbligh.org>
Subject: Re: tracepoint maintainance models
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:43:43 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060918024343.GA23149@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060918011352.GB30835@elte.hu>
* Ingo Molnar (mingo@elte.hu) wrote:
> Karim, i dont usually reply if you insult me (and you've grown a habit
> of that lately ), but this one is almost parodic. To understand my
> point, please consider this simple example of a static in-source markup,
> to be used by a dynamic tracer:
>
> static int x;
>
> void func(int a)
> {
> ...
> MARK(event, a);
> ...
> }
>
> if a dynamic tracer installs a probe into that MARK() spot, it will have
> access to 'a', but it can also have access to 'x'. While a static
> in-source markup for _static tracers_, if it also wanted to have the 'x'
> information, would also have to add 'x' as a parameter:
>
> MARK(event, a, x);
>
Hi,
If I may, if nothing marks the interest of the tracer in the "x" variable, what
happens when a kernel guru changes it for y (because it looks a lot better). The
code will not compile anymore when the markup marks the interest for x, when
your "dynamic tracer" markup will simply fail to find the information. My point
is that the markup of the interesting variables should follow code changes,
otherwise it will have to be constantly updated elsewhere (hmm ? Documentation/
someone ?)
I would say that not marking a static variable just because it is less visually
intrusive is a not such a good thing to do. That's not because we *can* that we
*should*.
Mathieu
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-09-18 2:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-17 9:40 The emperor is naked: why *comprehensive* static markup belongs in mainline Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-17 11:21 ` Paul Mundt
2006-09-17 14:36 ` tracepoint maintainance models Ingo Molnar
2006-09-17 15:02 ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-17 15:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-17 17:18 ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-17 23:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-17 23:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 0:17 ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-18 9:01 ` Jes Sorensen
2006-09-17 20:37 ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-17 22:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-17 15:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-18 0:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 1:12 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18 1:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 2:32 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18 2:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 3:54 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18 4:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 4:43 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18 2:43 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2006-09-18 3:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 4:26 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-18 5:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 12:25 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-09-18 15:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 15:45 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-18 15:48 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-18 15:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 16:19 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-18 16:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 17:02 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-18 16:15 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-09-18 17:02 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-18 17:27 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-09-18 18:04 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-18 17:54 ` Martin Bligh
2006-09-18 18:05 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-09-18 19:10 ` Vara Prasad
2006-09-18 19:49 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-18 19:39 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-09-18 20:28 ` Vara Prasad
2006-10-06 5:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-10-06 13:01 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-10-06 14:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-10-06 23:17 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-18 15:47 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-09-18 15:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 16:30 ` MARKER mechanism, try 2 Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-18 16:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 17:47 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-18 19:39 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-17 20:19 ` tracepoint maintainance models Nicholas Miell
2006-09-17 23:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 0:05 ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-18 1:52 ` Theodore Tso
2006-09-19 12:58 ` tracing - consensus building insteat of dogfights Christoph Hellwig
2006-09-19 13:25 ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-19 13:45 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-19 14:25 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18 0:10 ` tracepoint maintainance models Nicholas Miell
2006-09-18 0:43 ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-18 0:56 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18 0:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 2:09 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18 3:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 3:52 ` Theodore Tso
2006-09-18 4:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 4:24 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18 4:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 5:03 ` LTTng and SystemTAP (Everyone who is scared to read this huge thread, skip to here) Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-18 15:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-23 15:50 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-18 5:37 ` tracepoint maintainance models Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18 20:12 ` Michel Dagenais
2006-09-18 4:14 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18 4:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 4:57 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18 1:03 ` The emperor is naked: why *comprehensive* static markup belongs in mainline Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18 15:53 ` Jose R. Santos
2006-09-18 17:28 ` Karim Yaghmour
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