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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Jim Gettys <jg@laptop.org>,
	John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 08/23] dynticks: prepare the RCU code
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 15:09:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060930130958.GA12021@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060930122514.GC8763@in.ibm.com>


* Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com> wrote:

> It is duplicating code. That can be easily fixed, but we need to 
> figure out what we really want from RCU when we are about to switch 
> off the ticks. It is hard if you want to finish off all the pending 
> RCUs and go to nohz state. Can you live with backing out if there are 
> pending RCUs ?

the thing is that when we go idle we /want/ to process whatever delayed 
work there might be - rate limited or not. Do you agree with that 
approach? I consider this a performance feature as well: this way we can 
utilize otherwise lost idle time. It is not a problem that we dont 
'batch' this processing: we are really idle and we've got free cycles to 
burn. We could even do an RCU processing loop that immediately breaks 
out if need_resched() gets set [by an IRQ or by another CPU].

secondly, i think i saw functionality problems when RCU was not 
completed before going idle - for example synchronize_rcu() on another 
CPU would hang.

what approach would you suggest to achieve these goals?

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-30 13:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-29 23:58 [patch 00/23] Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-29 23:58 ` [patch 01/23] GTOD: exponential update_wall_time Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-29 23:58 ` [patch 02/23] GTOD: persistent clock support, core Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-30  8:35   ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-30 17:15     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-10-02 21:49     ` john stultz
2006-09-29 23:58 ` [patch 03/23] GTOD: persistent clock support, i386 Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-30  8:36   ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-02 22:03     ` john stultz
2006-10-02 22:44       ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-02 23:09         ` john stultz
2006-10-03 23:30         ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-29 23:58 ` [patch 04/23] time: uninline jiffies.h Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-29 23:58 ` [patch 05/23] time: fix msecs_to_jiffies() bug Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-29 23:58 ` [patch 06/23] time: fix timeout overflow Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-29 23:58 ` [patch 07/23] cleanup: uninline irq_enter() and move it into a function Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-30  8:36   ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-29 23:58 ` [patch 08/23] dynticks: prepare the RCU code Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-30  8:36   ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-30 12:25     ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-09-30 13:09       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2006-09-30 13:52         ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-09-30 21:35           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-29 23:58 ` [patch 09/23] dynticks: extend next_timer_interrupt() to use a reference jiffie Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-30  8:37   ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-29 23:58 ` [patch 10/23] hrtimers: clean up locking Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-30  8:37   ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-29 23:58 ` [patch 11/23] hrtimers: state tracking Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-30  8:37   ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-29 23:58 ` [patch 12/23] hrtimers: clean up callback tracking Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-29 23:58 ` [patch 13/23] clockevents: core Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-30  8:39   ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-03  4:33     ` John Kacur
2006-09-29 23:58 ` [patch 14/23] clockevents: drivers for i386 Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-30  8:40   ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-29 23:58 ` [patch 15/23] high-res timers: core Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-30  8:43   ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-29 23:58 ` [patch 16/23] dynticks: core Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-30  8:44   ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-30 12:11     ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-09-29 23:58 ` [patch 17/23] dyntick: add nohz stats to /proc/stat Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-29 23:58 ` [patch 18/23] dynticks: i386 arch code Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-30  8:45   ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-29 23:58 ` [patch 19/23] high-res timers, dynticks: enable i386 support Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-29 23:58 ` [patch 20/23] add /proc/sys/kernel/timeout_granularity Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-30  8:45   ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-29 23:58 ` [patch 21/23] debugging feature: timer stats Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-30  8:46   ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-29 23:58 ` [patch 22/23] dynticks: increase SLAB timeouts Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-30  8:49   ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-29 23:58 ` [patch 23/23] dynticks: decrease I8042_POLL_PERIOD Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-30  8:49   ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-30  8:35 ` [patch 00/23] Andrew Morton
2006-09-30 19:17   ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-30  8:35 ` Andrew Morton

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