From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Eric Rannaud <eric.rannaud@gmail.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
nagar@watson.ibm.com, Chandra Seetharaman <sekharan@us.ibm.com>,
Jan Beulich <jbeulich@novell.com>
Subject: Re: BUG-lockdep and freeze (was: Arrr! Linux 2.6.18)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:49:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060930204900.GA576@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609301344231.3952@g5.osdl.org>
* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> wrote:
> I mean, really: Andi, point me to anything that was a real problem
> when we had no unwinder at all?
personally, i like perfect stacktraces, alot. x86_64 was a huge pain for
me without the unwinder. I got so used to perfect backtraces on i686
(when using %ebp frames) during the years, and i had to look at _many_
backtraces with lockdep. On x86_64 it was just constant brain-drain to
think away bogus stack entries. Yes, i can do it no problem when i have
to look at only a few stacktraces per day, but if it's hundreds per day
it's _alot_ of brainpower wasted.
(i'd have been happy with an %rbp based unwinder for x86_64, in fact i
implemented it for lockdep and used it for some time on x86_64, but Andi
wanted a dwarf-based, lower-overhead one. Andi also nicely integrated it
into stacktrace.c.)
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-09-30 20:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-30 19:20 BUG-lockdep and freeze (was: Arrr! Linux 2.6.18) Eric Rannaud
2006-09-30 19:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-09-30 20:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-30 20:57 ` Eric Rannaud
2006-09-30 19:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-30 20:21 ` Al Viro
2006-09-30 20:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-30 20:30 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-30 20:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-30 20:49 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2006-09-30 21:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-30 21:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-30 21:57 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-30 22:09 ` BUG-lockdep and freeze (was: Arrr! Linux 2.6.18) II Andi Kleen
2006-09-30 22:19 ` Eric Rannaud
2006-09-30 22:24 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-30 22:54 ` BUG-lockdep and freeze (was: Arrr! Linux 2.6.18) Linus Torvalds
2006-10-04 9:21 ` Jan Beulich
2006-10-04 15:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-30 21:43 ` Eric Rannaud
2006-09-30 22:03 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-30 21:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-30 22:02 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-30 22:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-30 22:23 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-30 22:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-30 22:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-30 23:56 ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-01 0:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-01 0:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-01 9:27 ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-04 9:25 ` Jan Beulich
2006-10-04 10:52 ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-04 11:58 ` Jan Beulich
2006-10-04 12:03 ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-04 12:10 ` Jan Beulich
2006-09-30 20:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-04 9:15 ` Jan Beulich
2006-09-30 20:13 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-30 20:52 ` Eric Rannaud
2006-09-30 21:04 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-30 22:00 ` Eric Rannaud
2006-09-30 22:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-10-01 0:59 ` Eric Rannaud
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