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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Eric Rannaud <eric.rannaud@gmail.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	nagar@watson.ibm.com, Chandra Seetharaman <sekharan@us.ibm.com>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@novell.com>
Subject: Re: BUG-lockdep and freeze (was: Arrr! Linux 2.6.18)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 23:25:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060930212524.GA6332@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609301406340.3952@g5.osdl.org>


* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> wrote:

> It could - and _should_ dammit! - do some basic sanity tests like "is 
> the thing even in the same stack page"? But nooo... It seems 
> _designed_ to be fragile and broken.
>
> Here's a simple test: if the next stack-slot isn't on the same page, 
> the unwind information is bogus unless you had the IRQ stack-switch 
> signature there. Does the code do that? No. It just assumes that 
> unwind information is complete and perfect.

fully agreed - i have pointed out areas of conceptual fragility to Jan 
early on:

  http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/6/2/59

(but AFAICS i got no reply to that mail - i missed that in the lockdep 
flurry.)

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-30 21:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-30 19:20 BUG-lockdep and freeze (was: Arrr! Linux 2.6.18) Eric Rannaud
2006-09-30 19:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-09-30 20:23   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-30 20:57   ` Eric Rannaud
2006-09-30 19:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-30 20:21   ` Al Viro
2006-09-30 20:28     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-30 20:30   ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-30 20:47     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-30 20:49       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-30 21:11         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-30 21:25           ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2006-09-30 21:57           ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-30 22:09             ` BUG-lockdep and freeze (was: Arrr! Linux 2.6.18) II Andi Kleen
2006-09-30 22:19               ` Eric Rannaud
2006-09-30 22:24                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-30 22:54             ` BUG-lockdep and freeze (was: Arrr! Linux 2.6.18) Linus Torvalds
2006-10-04  9:21           ` Jan Beulich
2006-10-04 15:12             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-30 21:43     ` Eric Rannaud
2006-09-30 22:03       ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-30 21:56     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-30 22:02       ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-30 22:10         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-30 22:23           ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-30 22:55         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-30 22:59           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-30 23:56           ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-01  0:25             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-01  0:51               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-01  9:27                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-04  9:25     ` Jan Beulich
2006-10-04 10:52       ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-04 11:58         ` Jan Beulich
2006-10-04 12:03           ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-04 12:10             ` Jan Beulich
2006-09-30 20:43   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-04  9:15   ` Jan Beulich
2006-09-30 20:13 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-30 20:52   ` Eric Rannaud
2006-09-30 21:04     ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-30 22:00       ` Eric Rannaud
2006-09-30 22:05         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-10-01  0:59           ` Eric Rannaud

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