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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: error to be returned while suspended
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 00:44:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061004224448.GL8440@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200610041834.57639.oliver@neukum.org>

Hi!

> > > which error should a character device return if a read/write cannot be
> > > serviced because the device is suspended? Shouldn't there be an error
> > > code specific to that?
> > 
> > If you are talking system suspend, then userspace should not run while
> > devices are suspended.
> > 
> > If you are talking runtime suspend, you should probably just wake the
> > device up on first access.
> 
> Do you really think a device driver should override an explicitely
> selected power state?

(So we are talking runtime suspend?)

No, I do not know what the right interface is. I started to suspect
that drivers should suspend/resume devices automatically, without
userland help. Maybe having autosuspend_timeout in sysfs is enough.

								Pavel
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  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-04 22:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-03 11:23 error to be returned while suspended Oliver Neukum
2006-10-03 12:51 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-10-03 13:02   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-03 14:17     ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-10-04 11:19 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-04 16:34   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-04 22:44     ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2006-10-05  7:07       ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-05  8:57         ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-05 16:21         ` [linux-usb-devel] " Alan Stern
2006-10-05 16:35           ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-05 18:24             ` Alan Stern
2006-10-05 18:43               ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-05 20:48                 ` Alan Stern
2006-10-05 21:25                   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-05 21:45                     ` Alan Stern
2006-10-06  7:21                       ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-06 17:48                         ` Alan Stern
2006-10-06 11:25                       ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-06  2:47                     ` David Brownell
2006-10-06  7:04                       ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-06 11:27                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-06 14:09                           ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-06 21:10                         ` David Brownell
2006-10-07 10:49                           ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-07 11:08                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-07 17:16                               ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08  0:03                                 ` David Brownell
2006-10-08  2:03                                   ` Alan Stern
2006-10-08  7:07                                     ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08 14:27                                       ` Alan Stern
2006-10-08 19:36                                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-08 19:57                                       ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08 21:06                                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-08  6:40                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-09 15:56                                     ` David Brownell
2006-10-08  6:51                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08  7:14                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08 13:24                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08 14:32                                     ` Alan Stern
2006-10-08 19:41                                     ` /sys/.../power/state " Pavel Machek
2006-10-08 19:19                                 ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                   ` <200610080838.03488.oliver@neukum.org>
     [not found]                     ` <200610080020.49158.david-b@pacbell.net>
2006-10-08  8:39                       ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08 14:16                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-10-06 11:23                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-06 11:21             ` Pavel Machek

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