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From: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] error to be returned while suspended
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 20:43:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200610052044.00324.oliver@neukum.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0610051418540.6897-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

Am Donnerstag, 5. Oktober 2006 20:24 schrieb Alan Stern:
> On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> 
> > Am Donnerstag, 5. Oktober 2006 18:21 schrieb Alan Stern:
> > > Currently we don't have any userspace APIs for such a daemon to use.  The 
> > > only existing API is deprecated and will go away soon.
> > 
> > I trust it'll be replaced.
> 
> Yes.  I think Greg wants to wait until the old API is completely gone.

I doubt it will. There's a potential need.

[..]
> > In the general case the idea seems insufficient. If I close my laptop's lid
> > I want all input devices suspended, whether the corresponding files are
> > opened or not. In fact, if I have port level power control I might even
> > want to cut power to them.
> 
> That's a separate issue.  You were talking about runtime suspend, but 
> closing the laptop's lid is a system suspend.

Why? If you freeze my batch jobs or make unavailable the servers
running on my laptop I'd be very unhappy.
But I want to make jostling a mouse or other input device safe. Thus
I want them to be suspended without autoresume. We need flexibility.

[..]
> P.S.: Cutting off port power is yet another issue.  It isn't a suspend in 
> the strict sense, because it will break an existing power session.

Yes, it is an additional more complicated option.

	Regards
		Oliver

  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-05 18:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-03 11:23 error to be returned while suspended Oliver Neukum
2006-10-03 12:51 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-10-03 13:02   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-03 14:17     ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-10-04 11:19 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-04 16:34   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-04 22:44     ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-05  7:07       ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-05  8:57         ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-05 16:21         ` [linux-usb-devel] " Alan Stern
2006-10-05 16:35           ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-05 18:24             ` Alan Stern
2006-10-05 18:43               ` Oliver Neukum [this message]
2006-10-05 20:48                 ` Alan Stern
2006-10-05 21:25                   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-05 21:45                     ` Alan Stern
2006-10-06  7:21                       ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-06 17:48                         ` Alan Stern
2006-10-06 11:25                       ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-06  2:47                     ` David Brownell
2006-10-06  7:04                       ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-06 11:27                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-06 14:09                           ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-06 21:10                         ` David Brownell
2006-10-07 10:49                           ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-07 11:08                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-07 17:16                               ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08  0:03                                 ` David Brownell
2006-10-08  2:03                                   ` Alan Stern
2006-10-08  7:07                                     ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08 14:27                                       ` Alan Stern
2006-10-08 19:36                                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-08 19:57                                       ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08 21:06                                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-08  6:40                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-09 15:56                                     ` David Brownell
2006-10-08  6:51                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08  7:14                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08 13:24                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08 14:32                                     ` Alan Stern
2006-10-08 19:41                                     ` /sys/.../power/state " Pavel Machek
2006-10-08 19:19                                 ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                   ` <200610080838.03488.oliver@neukum.org>
     [not found]                     ` <200610080020.49158.david-b@pacbell.net>
2006-10-08  8:39                       ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08 14:16                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-10-06 11:23                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-06 11:21             ` Pavel Machek

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