From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>,
David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>,
USB development list <linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] error to be returned while suspended
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 21:36:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061008193648.GA4042@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0610072153510.15825-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
Hi!
> > That is, the standard model is useless? I think you've made
> > a few strange leaps of logic there ... care to fill in those
> > gaps and explain just _why_ that standard model is "useless"???
> >
> > Recall by the way that the autosuspend stuff kicked off with
> > discussions about exactly how to make sure that Linux could
> > get the power savings inherent in suspending USB root hubs,
> > with remote wakeup enabling use of the mouse on that keyboard.
> > (I remember Len Brown talking to me a few years back about how
> > that was the "last" 2W per controller easily available to save
> > power on Centrino laptops ... now we're almost ready to claim
> > that savings.)
>
> The most obvious model for suspending keyboards or mice is an inactivity
> timeout (with the timeout limit set from userspace), but other policies
> certainly could be useful in specific circumstances.
>
> Considering that we have virtually no autosuspend capability now, taking
> the first few simple steps will be a big help. Just getting an
> infrastructure in place is a good start, even without a userspace API.
> Later on, when we have a better idea of what we want, bells and whistles
> can be added.
<AOL>Mee too</AOL>
Please, lets do few "autosuspend" things, and when we know how it
looks, we can think about doing something more advanced.
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-10-08 19:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-10-03 11:23 error to be returned while suspended Oliver Neukum
2006-10-03 12:51 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-10-03 13:02 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-03 14:17 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-10-04 11:19 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-04 16:34 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-04 22:44 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-05 7:07 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-05 8:57 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-05 16:21 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Alan Stern
2006-10-05 16:35 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-05 18:24 ` Alan Stern
2006-10-05 18:43 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-05 20:48 ` Alan Stern
2006-10-05 21:25 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-05 21:45 ` Alan Stern
2006-10-06 7:21 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-06 17:48 ` Alan Stern
2006-10-06 11:25 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-06 2:47 ` David Brownell
2006-10-06 7:04 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-06 11:27 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-06 14:09 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-06 21:10 ` David Brownell
2006-10-07 10:49 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-07 11:08 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-07 17:16 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08 0:03 ` David Brownell
2006-10-08 2:03 ` Alan Stern
2006-10-08 7:07 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08 14:27 ` Alan Stern
2006-10-08 19:36 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2006-10-08 19:57 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08 21:06 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-08 6:40 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-09 15:56 ` David Brownell
2006-10-08 6:51 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08 7:14 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08 13:24 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08 14:32 ` Alan Stern
2006-10-08 19:41 ` /sys/.../power/state " Pavel Machek
2006-10-08 19:19 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <200610080838.03488.oliver@neukum.org>
[not found] ` <200610080020.49158.david-b@pacbell.net>
2006-10-08 8:39 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08 14:16 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-10-06 11:23 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-06 11:21 ` Pavel Machek
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