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From: Matt Domsch <Matt_Domsch@dell.com>
To: Richard Hughes <hughsient@gmail.com>
Cc: Yu Luming <luming.yu@gmail.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Alessandro Guido <alessandro.guido@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	len.brown@intel.com, jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de, gelma@gelma.net,
	ismail@pardus.org.tr
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.6.18-mm2] acpi: add backlight support to the sony_acpi driver
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:10:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061010161012.GA18847@lists.us.dell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1160491646.6174.36.camel@hughsie-laptop>

On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 03:47:26PM +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-10-10 at 22:32 +0800, Yu Luming wrote:
> > >From my understanding, a cute userspace App shouldn't have this kind
> > of logic:
> >         if (is  DELL )
> >                 invoke libsmbios
> >         if (is  foo)
> >                 invoke libfoo,
> >         if (is bar)
> >                 invoke libbar,
> >         ....
> >         else
> >                 operate on /sys/class/backlight/ ,.,..
> 
> This is what HAL has at the moment[1]. And it's hell to maintain, but
> works for a lot of users.

This is slightly different.  This shows that there are a number of
slightly different kernel implementations:

/proc/acpi/toshiba/lcd
/proc/acpi/asus/brn
/proc/acpi/pcc/brightness
/proc/acpi/ibm/brightness
/proc/acpi/sony/brightness
/proc/omnibook/lcd

which is indeed nasty. I'd agree all in-kernel solutions should use
the same kernel<->user interface.  I'd also expect the kernel to have
a generic ACPI driver that exports the _BCL and _BCM method
implementations via that same interface, so that systems providing
that will "just work".  drivers/acpi/video.c currently exports this
via /proc/acpi/video/$DEVICE/brightness, which isn't the same as
/sys/class/backlight. :-(

There's also at least one more userspace option for the sonypi using
spiictrl.  This is where I expected libsmbios to plug in also, as a
fallback to the ACPI _BCL/_BCM methods above.

Thanks,
Matt

-- 
Matt Domsch
Software Architect
Dell Linux Solutions linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux
Linux on Dell mailing lists @ http://lists.us.dell.com

  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-10 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-30 17:08 [PATCH 2.6.18-mm2] acpi: add backlight support to the sony_acpi driver Alessandro Guido
2006-09-30 17:14 ` Alessandro Guido
2006-09-30 17:31   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-10-02  0:19 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-02  0:39   ` Matt Domsch
2006-10-02  0:48     ` Matt Domsch
2006-10-05 10:36     ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-06 21:17       ` Matt Domsch
2006-10-06 22:44         ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-10 14:32         ` Yu Luming
2006-10-10 14:47           ` Richard Hughes
2006-10-10 16:10             ` Matt Domsch [this message]
2006-10-11 16:28               ` Yu Luming
2006-10-16 17:45                 ` Yu Luming
2006-10-25  7:07                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-27 17:24                     ` Luming Yu
2006-10-29 17:50                       ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-30 15:49                         ` Luming Yu
2006-10-10 21:26           ` Matthew Garrett
2006-10-11  3:02             ` Matt Domsch
2006-10-11  3:16               ` Matthew Garrett
2006-10-11 16:37               ` Yu Luming
2006-10-11  6:59             ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-11  7:04               ` Matthew Garrett
2006-10-11  8:04                 ` Ismail Donmez
2006-10-11  8:12                   ` Matthew Garrett
2006-10-11 16:31                   ` Yu Luming
2006-10-11 16:45                     ` Ismail Donmez
2006-10-02 10:29   ` Holger Macht
2006-10-02 11:25   ` Alessandro Guido
2006-10-10 15:17     ` Yu Luming
2006-10-10 15:22       ` Richard Hughes
2006-10-10 21:23       ` Matthew Garrett
2006-10-11  3:20         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-10-11 16:48           ` Yu Luming
2006-10-11 19:08             ` Dmitry Torokhov

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