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From: Joel Becker <Joel.Becker@oracle.com>
To: Chandra Seetharaman <sekharan@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
	akpm@osdl.org, ckrm-tech@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ckrm-tech] [PATCH 0/5] Allow more than PAGESIZE data read in configfs
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:15:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061011001514.GP7911@ca-server1.us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1160522032.6389.26.camel@linuxchandra>

On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 04:13:52PM -0700, Chandra Seetharaman wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-10-10 at 14:58 -0700, Joel Becker wrote:
> > 	Well, they now have to learn seq_file.  They now get to assume
> 
> If they are simple users, they don't have to "learn" seq_file semantics,
> they would just replace their sprintf's with seq_printfs (as my changes
> in OCFS2 show).

	The sed(1) is trivial sure.  seq_file isn't terribly complex.
It's less about mere code knowledge and more about intention.  Really,
it's how people understand configfs will deal with their attributes.

> "char *" can also be used to spew out large amount of data (ok, maybe up
> to PAGESIZE in configfs's case :). My point is that changing char * to
> seq_file doesn't necessarily "introduce" the issue (of spewing large
> amounts of data).

	If I see a seq_file, I assume there are multiple things to
iterate over.  Don't you?

> This issue is moot, unless you have intentions of changing the user
> interface of configfs to be anything other than a file system, isn't
> it ?

	It could be today, without much trouble.  The entire point is to
prevent client modules from implementing a filesystem or any filesystem
semantics.  They implement an item hierarchy with attributes.  The
attributes are read-write with ->show() and ->set().  The filesystem
should be invisible to the client.

> Now we are in need of *large* reads. We can add this feature and let it
> evolve to the next level later when somebody needs to *set* a large
> attribute.

	I don't want some set of ad-hoc rules based on legacy broken
ideas.  "Well, you can do this, or this, or this, or even this, and all
sort of work, but it's a mess" is not a good thing.

Joel

-- 

Life's Little Instruction Book #20

	"Be forgiving of yourself and others."

Joel Becker
Principal Software Developer
Oracle
E-mail: joel.becker@oracle.com
Phone: (650) 506-8127

  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-11  0:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-10 18:20 [PATCH 0/5] Allow more than PAGESIZE data read in configfs Chandra Seetharaman
2006-10-10 18:20 ` [PATCH 1/5] Fix a module count leak Chandra Seetharaman
2006-10-10 22:17   ` Joel Becker
2006-10-10 18:20 ` [PATCH 2/5] Use seq_file for read side of operations Chandra Seetharaman
2006-10-11  9:12   ` Joel Becker
2006-10-10 18:21 ` [PATCH 3/5] Change configfs_example.c to use the new interface Chandra Seetharaman
2006-10-10 18:21 ` [PATCH 4/5] Change Documentation to reflect " Chandra Seetharaman
2006-10-10 18:21 ` [PATCH 5/5] Change the existing code to use " Chandra Seetharaman
2006-10-10 20:35 ` [PATCH 0/5] Allow more than PAGESIZE data read in configfs Joel Becker
2006-10-10 21:31   ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-10-10 21:58     ` Joel Becker
2006-10-10 23:13       ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-10-11  0:15         ` Joel Becker [this message]
2006-10-11  0:49       ` Matt Helsley
2006-10-11  1:28         ` Joel Becker
2006-10-11 22:39           ` Greg KH
2006-10-11 23:26             ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-10-12  4:17               ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-12 23:51               ` Greg KH
2006-10-13  0:16                 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-13 23:38                   ` Matt Helsley
2006-10-13 23:40                 ` Matt Helsley
2006-10-13 23:47                   ` Paul Menage
2006-10-14  6:17                   ` Greg KH
2006-10-14 23:14                     ` Matt Helsley
2006-10-16 19:10                 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-10-16 20:32                   ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-16 22:29                     ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-10-17  2:59                       ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-12  2:17             ` Matt Helsley
2006-10-12 23:54               ` Greg KH
2006-10-13  3:22                 ` Matt Helsley
     [not found]           ` <20061011220619.GB7911@ca-server1.us.oracle.com>
     [not found]             ` <1160619516.18766.209.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2006-10-12  7:08               ` Joel Becker
2006-10-12 21:44                 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-12 22:51                   ` Joel Becker
2006-10-13  0:01                     ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-14  4:40                       ` Greg KH
2006-10-13 23:37                 ` Matt Helsley
2006-10-14  0:09                   ` Joel Becker
2006-10-15  1:06                     ` Matt Helsley
2006-10-15 19:07                     ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-16 19:33                     ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-10-16 23:07                       ` Joel Becker
2006-10-11 20:19   ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-11 21:41     ` Joel Becker
2006-10-11 22:18     ` Joel Becker
2006-10-11 22:48       ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-11 23:27         ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-10-14  8:01           ` Greg KH
2006-10-14 19:43             ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-14 20:10               ` Joel Becker
2006-10-16 19:24                 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-10-16 23:09                   ` Joel Becker
2006-10-18  0:55                     ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-10-19 18:42                       ` Joel Becker
2006-10-16 19:16             ` Chandra Seetharaman

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