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From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: "Phetteplace, Thad (GE Healthcare,
	consultant)"  <Thad.Phetteplace@ge.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Bandwidth Allocations under CFQ I/O Scheduler
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:23:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061017132312.GD7854@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1161048269.3245.26.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>

On Tue, Oct 17 2006, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 16:46 -0400, Phetteplace, Thad (GE Healthcare,
> consultant) wrote:
> > The I/O priority levels available under the CFQ scheduler are
> > nice (no pun in intended), but I remember some talk back when
> > they first went in that future versions might include bandwidth
> > allocations in addition to the 'niceness' style.  Is anyone out
> > there working on that?  If not, I'm willing to hack up a proof
> > of concept... I just wan't to make sure I'm not reinventing
> > the wheel.
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> it's a nice idea in theory. However... since IO bandwidth for seeks is
> about 1% to 3% of that of sequential IO (on disks at least), which
> bandwidth do you want to allocate? "worst case" you need to use the
> all-seeks bandwidth, but that's so far away from "best case" that it may
> well not be relevant in practice. Yet there are real world cases where
> for a period of time you approach worst case behavior ;(

Bandwidth reservation would have to be confined to special cases, you
obviously cannot do it "in general" for the reasons Arjan lists above.
So you absolutely have to limit any meta data io that would cause seeks,
and the file in question would have to be laid out in a closely
sequential fashion. As long as the access pattern generated by the app
asking for reservation is largely sequential, the kernel can do whatever
it needs to help you maintain the required bandwidth.

On a per-file basis the bandwidth reservation should be doable, to the
extent that generic hardware allows.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-17 13:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-16 20:46 Bandwidth Allocations under CFQ I/O Scheduler Phetteplace, Thad (GE Healthcare, consultant)
2006-10-17  1:24 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-17 13:23   ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2006-10-17 14:37     ` Ric Wheeler
2006-10-17 14:47       ` Jens Axboe
2006-10-17 14:46     ` Phetteplace, Thad (GE Healthcare, consultant)
2006-10-18  8:00     ` Jakob Oestergaard
2006-10-18  9:40       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-18 11:30         ` Jakob Oestergaard
2006-10-18 11:49           ` Jens Axboe
2006-10-18 12:23             ` Jakob Oestergaard
2006-10-18 12:42               ` Alan Cox
2006-10-18 12:44                 ` Jens Axboe
2006-10-18 12:55                   ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-18 13:04                     ` Jens Axboe
2006-10-18 13:39                       ` Jakob Oestergaard
2006-10-18 13:51                       ` Paulo Marques
2006-10-19 12:22                         ` Jens Axboe
2006-10-18 13:37                     ` Jakob Oestergaard
2006-10-18 12:44                 ` Jakob Oestergaard
2006-10-18 12:42               ` Jens Axboe
2006-10-18 13:35                 ` Jakob Oestergaard
2006-10-18  9:51       ` Jens Axboe
2006-10-18 11:00         ` Helge Hafting
2006-10-18 11:14           ` Jens Axboe
2006-10-18 11:23           ` Ric Wheeler

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