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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, teunis <teunis@wintersgift.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Dmitry Torokhov <dtor@mail.ru>
Subject: Re: various laptop nagles - any suggestions?   (note: 2.6.19-rc2-mm1 but applies to multiple kernels)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:54:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061020135450.6794a2bb.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061020203731.GA22407@elte.hu>

On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:37:31 +0200
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:

> 
> * Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> wrote:
> 
> > > > I don't know how many machines will be affected by this, but I'd 
> > > > expect it's quite a few - the Vaio has a less-than-one-year-old 
> > > > Intel CPU in it.
> > > 
> > > Is this still the broken lapic issue ?
> > 
> > yup.  iirc the standard FC5 SMP kernel runs dog-slowly on that machine 
> > too.
> 
> hm. This is how lapic timer calibration works.
> 
> the lapic timer is really simple - it counts down from a value and 
> generates an irq if that counter reaches 0. Then it starts counting down 
> again.
> 
> the 'count down from' value is programmed via __setup_APIC_LVTT().
> 
> we first write a 'really large' number into it (1 billion):
> 
>         __setup_APIC_LVTT(1000000000);
> 
> the unit of counting is '16 system bus cycles'.
> 
> i.e. if your system has a system bus of 333 MHz, then a value of 1 
> billion takes 48 seconds to count down. (so the calibration ought to be 
> pretty robust in this regard.)
> 
> then we use the wait_timer_tick() function, which waits until the PIT 
> counter reaches 0 (which is attached to the PIT whose frequency we know 
> and thus the PIT is already programmed correctly). Hence by calling 
> wait_timer_tick() we can generate a delay of one jiffy - and we can read 
> out the current lapic timer count and determine the calibration factor.
> 
> then we calculate the result as:
> 
>         result = (tt1-tt2)*APIC_DIVISOR/LOOPS;
> 
> where tt1 is the counter before we start calibration, tt2 is the lapic 
> timer counter after we did calibration. (APIC_DIVISOR is 16)
> 
> i dont see where the error is - but there must be some calibration 
> problem as your system shows a systematic 1:60 difference between 
> expected and real lapic timer frequency.
> 

Oh.  I thought the problem was that the timer stops when the CPU is idle. 
Maybe I misremembered.  I'll try `idle=poll'.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-20 20:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-19 16:05 various laptop nagles - any suggestions? (note: 2.6.19-rc2-mm1 but applies to multiple kernels) teunis
2006-10-20  2:41 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-20 16:30   ` teunis
2006-10-20 18:07     ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-20 18:13       ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-20 18:26         ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-20 18:37           ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-20 18:46           ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-20 19:15             ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-20 20:37               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-10-20 20:54                 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2006-10-20 20:56                   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-10-21  1:25                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-21  9:49                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-22 21:22                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-08  7:19                           ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-08 22:28                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-21 14:52           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-20 19:13       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-10-20 22:26         ` teunis

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