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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@linuxmail.org>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Use extents for recording what swap is allocated.
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:46:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200610251446.41344.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1161770750.22729.117.camel@nigel.suspend2.net>

On Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:05, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 11:10 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > > > > > And now, can you do same computation assuming the swap allocator goes
> > > > > > completely crazy, and free space is in 1-page chunks?
> > > > > 
> > > > > The worst case is 3 * sizeof(unsigned long) *
> > > > > number_of_swap_extents_allocated bytes.
> > > > 
> > > > Okay, so if we got 4GB of swap space, thats 1MB swap pages, worst case
> > > > is you have one extent per page, on x86-64 that's 24MB. +kmalloc
> > > > overhead, I assume?
> > > 
> > > Sounds right.
> > 
> > Ok, 24-50MB per 4GB of swap space is not _that_ bad...
> 
> Other way round: 12MB for x86, 24 for x86_64 is the worst case.
> Actually, come to think of it, that would be for 8GB of swap space. The
> worst case would require every page of swap to be alternately free and
> allocated, so for 4GB you'd only have 2GB of swap allocated = 1/2 the
> number of extents and half the memory requirements.
> 
> > > > And you do linear walks over those extents, leading to O(n^2)
> > > > algorithm, no? That has bitten us before...
> > > 
> > > We start from where we last added an extent on the chain by default.
> > 
> > ...but linear search through 24MB _is_ going to hurt.
> 
> If we did one, yes it would. But this will be O(1) since we start at the
> last value, and get_swap_page goes through the space sequentially.

No, it doesn't, AFAICT, but I don't think it matters.

The question is whether there is a chance we'll get anywhere close to the
worst case and I think the answer is 'no' due to the way in which the swap
allocation works.

Greetings,
Rafael


-- 
You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
		R. Buckminster Fuller

  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-25 12:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-23  4:14 [PATCH] Use extents for recording what swap is allocated Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-23 15:32 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-23 23:04   ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-24  8:43     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24 20:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24 21:34   ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-24 21:58     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24 22:15     ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-24 22:19       ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-24 22:30         ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-25  8:11           ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-25  8:28             ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-25  8:42               ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-25  9:01                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-25  9:10                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-25 10:05                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-25 12:46                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2006-10-27 11:37                       ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-24 22:13   ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-24 22:45     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24 23:05       ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-31 11:39   ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-24 20:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-10-24 20:58   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24 22:06   ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-24 22:47     ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-10-24 23:03       ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-25  9:17     ` Jens Axboe
2006-10-25 10:07       ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-25 10:20         ` Jens Axboe
2006-10-31 11:38   ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-11-01 12:36     ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-01 21:19       ` Nigel Cunningham

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